Help with New PC Purchase Please.

ms_pammy · Post by **ms_pammy** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:24 am

Hello All!

Need some advise please. I’m looking at buying hubby a new pc tower for Christmas and although he has not really played any online games in the last year he is a gamer and I would like to get one that will support games if/when he decides to play again.

He normally plays games like Diablo, City of Hero’s, DAOC, and I think World of warcraft. (I am having a brain freeze and really hope these are the games he played and I’m not remembering the games the kids played) I know he likes fantasy/role playing games….

I know I would like to get a pc with a good processor and graphics card and would like to stay around 600 if possible. But I have no idea what processor/graphics card to look for, Is the price range possible and any suggestions on what pc?

Thanks so much
Pam

RaisinCain · Post by **RaisinCain** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:46 pm

http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-x51/pd

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:41 pm

The above little Alienware isn't bad.....trying to find the balance of budget vs gaming performance, if you can bump the budget to 799 you'll be better.
That Alienware system....take the mid-range processor...the i5, and go with 8 gigs of RAM. The base graphics card on it is good enough. Price is without monitor. Probably no speakers either.

RaisinCain · Post by **RaisinCain** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:06 pm

YeOldeStonecat wrote:The above little Alienware isn't bad.....trying to find the balance of budget vs gaming performance, if you can bump the budget to 799 you'll be better.
That Alienware system....take the mid-range processor...the i5, and go with 8 gigs of RAM. The base graphics card on it is good enough. Price is without monitor. Probably no speakers either.

Once again you try to "better" my suggestion. It's fine for what he is playing.

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:26 pm

RaisinCain wrote:Once again you try to "better" my suggestion. It's fine for what he is playing.

LOL he's not trying to "better" you or make you feel bad or belittle you in any way,

he was just adding to the discussion,he does computer stuff for a living and I for one value his opinion.

you need to get a grip, and try real hard to make friends here instead of continually alienating yourself .

ace · Post by **ace** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:27 pm

RaisinCain wrote:Once again you try to "better" my suggestion. It's fine for what he is playing.

Your so petty it makes me laugh. I would take YOSC suggestion over yours any day of the week, end of story.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:56 pm

If he has a 22" or larger monitor the Nvidia GTX 640 is going to be pure crap, and below that just barely gets by. The 660 is a very viable card though. If he gets into any modern games, The 640 will either not get the job done, or he will have to turn the graphics down so bad that it will look horrible.

Looking at HP's site you can customize a HPE h8-1400t series with a Nvidia GTX 660 for 900 bucks, or with an AMD Radeon HD 7770 for 850.

Newegg has this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6883227441

iBuyPower and CyberPower both come in around teh 900-1000 dollar mark as well.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:31 pm

RaisinCain wrote:Once again you try to "better" my suggestion. It's fine for what he is playing.

Boo freaking hoo hoo.
And...please point out where I stepped on your short little self?
You pointed to a model...but you did not do A SINGLE THING to select which configuration. It starts out with 4 different configurations..and the customer goes from there. YOU didn't specify which configuration...so where TF did I "one up" you? Huh? Please point it out to the crowd here...go ahead...POINT IT OUT! Where exactly did you specify which processor to her, which memory config to her, which graphics card to her, and which HDD to her? Go...point it out to the crowd here. Without going back and trying to edit your link to make it look like you did!

I agreed with your model, notice that I did type "THAT Alienware system". I just went a step further and went pretty much right down the middle.

Randy · Post by **Randy** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:02 pm

what an idiot... gotta be baiting there's no way he is that stupid ... nvm

those games are not that demanding graphics wise, maybe get him a new game to go with it?

Hey Ace > USB bong under the tree this year maybe?

cybotron r_9 · Post by **cybotron r_9** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:45 am

wow, i came in here looking for some ideas and had to

Stonecat, I think it was your reference to the word "little" that may have set him off.........

YeOldeStonecat wrote:Boo freaking hoo hoo.
And...please point out where I stepped on your short little self?
You pointed to a model...but you did not do A SINGLE THING to select which configuration. It starts out with 4 different configurations..and the customer goes from there. YOU didn't specify which configuration...so where TF did I "one up" you? Huh? Please point it out to the crowd here...go ahead...POINT IT OUT! Where exactly did you specify which processor to her, which memory config to her, which graphics card to her, and which HDD to her? Go...point it out to the crowd here. Without going back and trying to edit your link to make it look like you did!

I agreed with your model, notice that I did type "THAT Alienware system". I just went a step further and went pretty much right down the middle.

RaisinCain · Post by **RaisinCain** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:54 am

I gave the OP a starting point as far as configuration and price point. I didn't need to be quoted and then 1 upped. So everyone with the negative comments can kiss my ass.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:41 am

RaisinCain wrote:I gave the OP a starting point as far as configuration and price point. I didn't need to be quoted and then 1 upped. So everyone with the negative comments can kiss my ass.

This isn't the RasinCain Advice Forums. Generally people like to hear from more than 1 person.

You always seem to have an attitude, or a problem with people. The goal here is to be helpful, share ideas, opinions, stuff like that. If you can't get with the program maybe you should just get out.

RaisinCain · Post by **RaisinCain** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:48 am

YARDofSTUF wrote:This isn't the RasinCain Advice Forums. Generally people like to hear from more than 1 person.

You always seem to have an attitude, or a problem with people. The goal here is to be helpful, share ideas, opinions, stuff like that. If you can't get with the program maybe you should just get out.

I understand that. I only get an attitude when people are demeaning. I stand by my previous comment.

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:57 am

RaisinCain wrote:I understand that. I only get an attitude when people are demeaning. I stand by my previous comment.

LOL you get back what you put out.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:00 am

Seriously, put your stubbly little prick on the table and show us where anyone tossed aside your suggestion, or one upped it?

You pointed to a Dell "X51 Mini Gaming Desktop"
I happened to clearly agree with that...let me point it out...I said "That Alienware system..."...so basically I agreed with your suggestion of a brand and model.

Show me where that was demeaning?

But if you want demeaning, now we'll go there!

But here is where you obviously fail at grasping how Dells online shopping works. Go click on your link....you'll see a basic description of that X51...and only 1 choice to proceed...a button which is labeled "Select". Did you happen to click on that button? Because a potential customer interested in buying that computer would. So go ahead..click on that "Select" button. Notice you now have 4 different configurations to choose from. Now...a person asking about a gaming computer for her kid....we can probably figure they need a bit of help in choosing which one to go with. After all, that is part of what forums are for..as far as asking questions, and getting help. So I pointed her in the direction of door # 2...out of those 4. IMO, the i3 is too weak for gaming, the i7 is overpriced for the little speed above an i5...making the i5 a good mid-ranged processor. And IMO 4 gigs of RAM is the bare minimum for a Windows 7 rig for basic desktop use, with 8 gigs being the sweet spot for gaming...for just a couple of more ten dollar bills. Really gives a HUGE performance boost of 4 gigs for that little extra money. And IMO that base graphics card is fine.

So watch the attitude, the only think kissing yer arse will be the bottom of my size 12 'n a half boot!

Cliff notes.
Someone asks for a suggestion for a gaming computer.
RC posts a Dell computer
I agree with that Dell computer....but I only added some notes to help with the further questions about it which I know that the OP will have...because there are further choices relating to that particular gaming computer...which were NOT YET mentioned. I simply anticipated those questions and addressed them ahead of time.

ms_pammy · Post by **ms_pammy** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:04 am

Thanks for the recommendations!

Raisn I don’t think he was trying to better your suggestion, I took it as he liked the suggestion and recommend getting the middle model.

I’m really liking the size of the Alienware X51 and am considering the 799.99 model http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-x51/fs
and was ready to order today but since they only have a 21 return policy I will wait closer to Christmas just incase the hubby don’t like or want it.

Again thanks everyone for the suggestions and if anyone see’s a better deal before I order please do share! (:

RaisinCain · Post by **RaisinCain** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:09 am

YeOldeStonecat wrote:Seriously, put your stubbly little prick on the table and show us where anyone tossed aside your suggestion, or one upped it?

You pointed to a Dell "X51 Mini Gaming Desktop"
I happened to clearly agree with that...let me point it out...I said "That Alienware system..."...so basically I agreed with your suggestion of a brand and model.

Show me where that was demeaning?

But if you want demeaning, now we'll go there!

But here is where you obviously fail at grasping how Dells online shopping works. Go click on your link....you'll see a basic description of that X51...and only 1 choice to proceed...a button which is labeled "Select". Did you happen to click on that button? Because a potential customer interested in buying that computer would. So go ahead..click on that "Select" button. Notice you now have 4 different configurations to choose from. Now...a person asking about a gaming computer for her kid....we can probably figure they need a bit of help in choosing which one to go with. After all, that is part of what forums are for..as far as asking questions, and getting help. So I pointed her in the direction of door # 2...out of those 4. IMO, the i3 is too weak for gaming, the i7 is overpriced for the little speed above an i5...making the i5 a good mid-ranged processor. And IMO 4 gigs of RAM is the bare minimum for a Windows 7 rig for basic desktop use, with 8 gigs being the sweet spot for gaming...for just a couple of more ten dollar bills. Really gives a HUGE performance boost of 4 gigs for that little extra money. And IMO that base graphics card is fine.

So watch the attitude, the only think kissing yer arse will be the bottom of my size 12 'n a half boot!

Cliff notes.
Someone asks for a suggestion for a gaming computer.
RC posts a Dell computer
I agree with that Dell computer....but I only added some notes to help with the further questions about it which I know that the OP will have...because there are further choices relating to that particular gaming computer...which were NOT YET mentioned. I simply anticipated those questions and addressed them ahead of time.

You're very welcome to come to the U.S. to try and make good on your size 12 promise anytime. Also, you know there is a Customize and Buy button on each of those options right?

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:17 am

RaisinCain wrote:You're very welcome to come to the U.S. to try and make good on your size 12 promise anytime. Also, you know there is a Customize and Buy button on each of those options right?

LOL he does'nt have far to come to get to the US !

he'll have to drive ALL THE WAY FROM NEW ENGLAND ! DAMIT ! LOL NOT OLD ENGLAND

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:20 am

YeOldeStonecat wrote: Show me where that was demeaning?

you weren't , people here are never demeaning to him until he comes out with the RS attitude,when he is cool,(which is rare) people are cool back to him.he only got 'demeaning" posts AFTER he came back with his cry baby reply.

ms_pammy · Post by **ms_pammy** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:22 am

Randy wrote:what an idiot... gotta be baiting there's no way he is that stupid ... nvm

those games are not that demanding graphics wise, maybe get him a new game to go with it?

Hey Ace > USB bong under the tree this year maybe?

I thought about a game and really would have no idea what game to get him. He really has not played any games in over a year (excpet for some facebook game -Avengers Alliance)

I dont think he has lost interest I think he just got tired of fighting with his old pc. So maybe either diablo 3 or maybe Ill ask his friend what fantasy/roll playing game they think he might like.

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:22 am

ms_pammy wrote:Thanks for the recommendations!

Raisn I don’t think he was trying to better your suggestion, I took it as he liked the suggestion and recommend getting the middle model.

I’m really liking the size of the Alienware X51 and am considering the 799.99 model http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-x51/fs
and was ready to order today but since they only have a 21 return policy I will wait closer to Christmas just incase the hubby don’t like or want it.

Again thanks everyone for the suggestions and if anyone see’s a better deal before I order please do share! (:

hi hun,sorry for the thread derail,BTW,it's good to see you post again,I will poke around and keep an eye out for a good system,

also,that's a great idea for your gift to your husband,I'm sure he will love it.

RaisinCain · Post by **RaisinCain** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:23 am

Dan wrote:LOL he does'nt have far to come to get to the US ! he'll have to drive ALL THE WAY FROM NEW ENGLAND ! DAMIT ! LOL NOT OLD ENGLAND

Sue me. I missed the New before England.

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:46 am

RaisinCain wrote:Sue me. I missed the New before England.

no,I don't want to sue you,I was just being demeaning.

RaisinCain · Post by **RaisinCain** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:00 am

Dan wrote:no,I don't want to sue you,I was just being demeaning.

That's EXACTLY what i was talking about!

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:15 am

RaisinCain wrote:That's EXACTLY what i was talking about!

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why don't you get it ? treat others the way you want to be treated ! it's only after you come out with the weird/mean personality,the other descent personality you have is cool and nobody fires back when you post as a friendly member of the SG community.cat didn't say anything rude or demeaning to you in post # 3,after your post # 4 is when people handed it back to you.
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and I guess you need to be told,
that post of mine was just sarcasm

RaisinCain · Post by **RaisinCain** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:53 am

Dan wrote:.
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and I guess you need to be told,
that post of mine was just sarcasm

As was mine.

ms_pammy · Post by **ms_pammy** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:06 pm

Dan wrote:hi hun,sorry for the thread derail,BTW,it's good to see you post again,I will poke around and keep an eye out for a good system,

also,that's a great idea for your gift to your husband,I'm sure he will love it.

Glad to be back – I can’t believe I first registered in 2001 it does not seem that long ago for sure!

No worries about the thread - I had forgot how entertaining it could be in here! LOL (;

morbidpete · Post by **morbidpete** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:44 pm

ms_pammy wrote:I thought about a game and really would have no idea what game to get him. He really has not played any games in over a year (excpet for some facebook game -Avengers Alliance)

I dont think he has lost interest I think he just got tired of fighting with his old pc. So maybe either diablo 3 or maybe Ill ask his friend what fantasy/roll playing game they think he might like.

If he is into FPS, I have been playing alot of Boarderlands 2. Its easy on the GPU since its all cell shading. It's a nice game to casually pick up and play here and there.

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:47 pm

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:16 am

RaisinCain wrote:You're very welcome to come to the U.S. to try and make good on your size 12 promise anytime. Also, you know there is a Customize and Buy button on each of those options right?

LOL "Come to the US"....I've been in the US for 46 years...only 553 miles away based on your IP address today.
And "DUH"..customize and buy, what do you think I was talking about. Holy McFly!

Rivas · Post by **Rivas** » Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:11 pm

wow ....lol

Mad_Haggis · Post by **Mad_Haggis** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:09 am

RaisinCain wrote:I understand that. I only get an attitude when people are demeaning. I stand by my previous comment.

You said/posted/tweeted/forever incribed? dell.

I'm with YOSC on this one.

Xmas PC 4 "Hubby"...

Want hubby to spend the rest of your years in wholly matrimony?, together? forever?...not a bad thing.

SG is always a place of ones and zeros.

Want to get rid of your hubby by buying him the most best PC in the house for Xmas?

The most can best too do is try and answer the actuall question. Not make emenies, make friends.

Oh my One.

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:15 pm

morbidpete wrote:If he is into FPS, I have been playing alot of Boarderlands 2. Its easy on the GPU since its all cell shading. It's a nice game to casually pick up and play here and there.

Highly recommend this game... PC or Xbox its fun and you/he will have hours and hours of it.

Rivas · Post by **Rivas** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:25 pm

Bastid wrote:Highly recommend this game... PC or Xbox its fun and you/he will have hours and hours of it.

I agree, it's very good game.

ms_pammy · Post by **ms_pammy** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:53 am

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Bastid wrote:Highly recommend this game... PC or Xbox its fun and you/he will have hours and hours of it.

Thanks for the reommendation - think I will get it for grandson for xbox. (:

Mad_Haggis · Post by **Mad_Haggis** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:07 am

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_ ... _id=050499

ms_pammy · Post by **ms_pammy** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:27 am

Hi All!

I ordered and now have received the Alienware X51 the upgraded I5 & 8GB memory. It even comes with a keyboard and mouse all packaged in a very neat alien looking box. Also got him Diablo 3 to play, also got my son that is at Minot A.F.B a copy of Diablo 3 so that they can play it together! ((:

Thanks for all the recommendations! ((: Hope everyoe has a Wonderful Holiday!

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:57 am

ics:

ms_pammy · Post by **ms_pammy** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:52 am

CableDude wrote: ics:

Already wrapped up, will have to take some on Christmas! (:

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:12 pm

Father and son defeating evil and saving Deckard Cain together!