I should've asked for a price quote when I dropped it off but (until now) my insurance has been great so I didn't bother.
Wow didnt know sleeping drugs cost that much, have you ever looked into a passion flower tea or valerian root tea? If your having to buy a prescription theres no reason you couldnt grow those plants yourself and have something much better for you, many many times cheaper and always fresh medicine than some white lab coat brew.
frostybear wrote:Wow didnt know sleeping drugs cost that much, have you ever looked into a passion flower tea or valerian root tea? If your having to buy a prescription theres no reason you couldnt grow those plants yourself and have something much better for you, many many times cheaper and always fresh medicine than some white lab coat brew.
Oh yeah, we've had several threads on insomnia over the pasts few years and I've tried melatonin, valarian root, catnip, chamomielle, etc. Have never tried fresh though.
Had never gotten this stuff before either, had no clue it was so expensive. I won't be able to afford to refill it.
The real pisser? I took one last night and slept great...for 4 hours
Humboldt wrote:Oh yeah, we've had several threads on insomnia over the pasts few years and I've tried melatonin, valarian root, catnip, chamomielle, etc. Have never tried fresh though.
Had never gotten this stuff before either, had no clue it was so expensive. I won't be able to afford to refill it.
The real pisser? I took one last night and slept great...for 4 hours
Yeah the key is fresh, like with anything else the main constituents are at their highest and most potent fresh, the dried herbs in pill form or dried herbs you get at stores have lost a majority of their potency and dont work very well, just like anything else..just a thought..too bad your not in Socal else I could set you up with those plants and fresh herbs to try, have seen it work with everyone I have gave them to so far that had sleeping trouble. Another thing you may try is turning off all the electronics in your house besides your fridge, electro radition can affect some peoples sleeping patterns..
Do you drink any caffeinated beverages?
Do you take any protein supplements?
Be mindful, like their pharmaceutical counterparts, herbals can have deleterious side effects.
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No, but I'm fairly active given my schedule and aim to increase my exercise. Not much cardio. I know tiring myself out can help don't have the money/time for the gym.
I try to get in as much walking as I can with my various dogs, either on my street or at the beach or forest during the weekends.
frostybear wrote:Yeah the key is fresh, like with anything else the main constituents are at their highest and most potent fresh, the dried herbs in pill form or dried herbs you get at stores have lost a majority of their potency and dont work very well, just like anything else..just a thought..too bad your not in Socal else I could set you up with those plants and fresh herbs to try, have seen it work with everyone I have gave them to so far that had sleeping trouble. Another thing you may try is turning off all the electronics in your house besides your fridge, electro radition can affect some peoples sleeping patterns..
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll look for those plants at my nursery.
Flexeril (cyclobenzaprine) is a muscle relaxer that I use. I think 10mg. The nice thing about, I can take "half" and it is enough to make me go to bed. My doctor says that is the side benefit of it.. I agree.
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Sava wants to complain about gas these pharmaceutical companies are a ripoff. Sure they say it’s research but there has to be a limit. My bill is well over $20,000 a year and that is for medicine that slows the relapses of the MS. That much and it doesn’t even cure it.
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RoundEye wrote:Sava wants to complain about gas these pharmaceutical companies are a ripoff. Sure they say it’s research but there has to be a limit. My bill is well over $20,000 a year and that is for medicine that slows the relapses of the MS. That much and it doesn’t even cure it.
I agree on both cases. I know the concept of a business is to make money but in some cases it seems that greed is the ultimate motivating factor.
My Copaxone is the most expensive and that is for the MS. I have a couple others for twitching and nerves and such. I think I’ve had 15 prescriptions so far, but I don’t fill them all.
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I would kill for a good nights sleep. I recently got some Ambien and although it helps you fall asleep faster is doesn't seem to do anything to keep you asleep. I also found it to be mildly addicting. 4 or 5 days in a row and then stop then 6th night it's a bitch trying to fall asleep.
As I get older I find that even my naps aren't as refreshing as they use to be. I've never slept good my entire life. Everytime I mention it to a doctor they usually just blow you off with the same old crap about caffeine, excercise etc. My mind is doing a frantic 2-step 24/7 and sometimes I wish I could just sit down.
Easto wrote:I would kill for a good nights sleep. I recently got some Ambien and although it helps you fall asleep faster is doesn't seem to do anything to keep you asleep. I also found it to be mildly addicting. 4 or 5 days in a row and then stop then 6th night it's a bitch trying to fall asleep.
As I get older I find that even my naps aren't as refreshing as they use to be. I've never slept good my entire life. Everytime I mention it to a doctor they usually just blow you off with the same old crap about caffeine, excercise etc. My mind is doing a frantic 2-step 24/7 and sometimes I wish I could just sit down.
RoundEye wrote:Sava wants to complain about gas these pharmaceutical companies are a ripoff. Sure they say it’s research but there has to be a limit. My bill is well over $20,000 a year and that is for medicine that slows the relapses of the MS. That much and it doesn’t even cure it.
If it cured it they wouldnt have a customer for life, theres no money in any cure.
Easto wrote:I would kill for a good nights sleep. I recently got some Ambien and although it helps you fall asleep faster is doesn't seem to do anything to keep you asleep. I also found it to be mildly addicting. 4 or 5 days in a row and then stop then 6th night it's a bitch trying to fall asleep.
As I get older I find that even my naps aren't as refreshing as they use to be. I've never slept good my entire life. Everytime I mention it to a doctor they usually just blow you off with the same old crap about caffeine, excercise etc. My mind is doing a frantic 2-step 24/7 and sometimes I wish I could just sit down.
Thats the bad thing about the pills with them being addictive. Your in Socal so if your up for trying maybe we could get together and I can set you up with some plants to try to see if it works for you, they are homegrown and fresh. I have the same issue with mind in overdrive 24/7 but it is only a matter of quieting the mind, with it being like water it needs to be still to be smooth and at peace.
Lorazepam worked great for me but is recommended for short-term use only, after taking it too long it starts to reverse it's effects.
Diazapam/valium has helped a bit.
All in the same group of benzodiazepines. I'll ask about temazepam next time I see my doctor.
Humboldt wrote:Any idea what the cost before insurance is?
Lorazepam worked great for me but is recommended for short-term use only, after taking it too long it starts to reverse it's effects.
Diazapam/valium has helped a bit.
All in the same group of benzodiazepines. I'll ask about temazepam next time I see my doctor.
I've been on it for a long time,and it seems to still be working great.
Makes you wonder how come all uncurable long-term diseases (Diabetes, MS, Arthritis, etc.) have those $500+ monthly meds tags attached to them, just for keeping the disease from progressing... With prices doubling every 10 years or so.
The trippy part is I have to take their word that it is working. With a pain pill you take it and the pain goes away. I just do the shot and hope it works as advertized.
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Philip wrote:Makes you wonder how come all uncurable long-term diseases (Diabetes, MS, Arthritis, etc.) have those $500+ monthly meds tags attached to them, just for keeping the disease from progressing... With prices doubling every 10 years or so.
The escalating cost of research and development, among other issues.
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Luck is where preparation meets opportunity - Seneca
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'" - Isaac Asimov
It is my ambition to say in ten sentences what others say in a whole book. - Friedrich Nietzsche
Shinobi wrote:Flexeril (cyclobenzaprine) is a muscle relaxer that I use. I think 10mg. The nice thing about, I can take "half" and it is enough to make me go to bed. My doctor says that is the side benefit of it.. I agree.
Muscle relaxants are wonderful somnolents. However, like manual benzodiazapines (which also have muscle relaxant properties), they have short have lives. If you like flexeril, consider Zanaflex.
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Luck is where preparation meets opportunity - Seneca
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'" - Isaac Asimov
It is my ambition to say in ten sentences what others say in a whole book. - Friedrich Nietzsche
I have it and if you snore, you might want to try a sleep study. I'm betting you have it too.
I walked around a zombie for 7 years till I couldn't take it anymore. Had the sleep study done and confirmed my suspicions. Now I'm on a BiPAP machine at night and sleeping pretty darn good.
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I have had success with this appliance in patients with mild sleep apnea.
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Luck is where preparation meets opportunity - Seneca
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'" - Isaac Asimov
It is my ambition to say in ten sentences what others say in a whole book. - Friedrich Nietzsche
Some of those name brand meds get pretty expensive, I was persribed an SSRI script when I was younger and we had to pay like 200$ for it since my health insurance didn't cover it. Eventually I just stopped taking it because paying 200$ for something like that is just... <insert witty offensive word here>