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Seeking some expert opinions on Dell Laptops

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Hi to all

I am considering buying a Dell Laptop & am seeking some expert opinions to do so, as i have no clue having never owned one. This is not an urgent thing with me just something i want to look into and don't know where to start.

Due to poor eyesight i need a 17 inch screen with a very clear picture and text, that much i know. A lighted keyboard is also a must. Weight is not an issue.

My target price is approximately a $1000.00 CDN. as i live in Canada and would have to purchase here.

Would like something that will last into the future re performance and specs. I mostly use my comp. for surfing and stuff but would like to be able to do a bit of gaming and perhaps photo stuff as well.

32 bit...64 bit...Windows 7 Premium, Pro or Ultimate...Extended Warranties, etc are where i am hoping you'll be kind enough to point me in the right direction along with any good deal coupons you may know of to keep prices down.

Thanks in advance for any and all help.

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Minir

A 17" laptop is going to be somewhat light performance wise considering the budget you have set. Here is a site for up to date coupon codes Click (there are plenty of other sites with other codes just search Dell Coupon codes).

Have you maybe considered HP? The following computer is a little bit over your budget but people have been getting this laptop for between $900-$1099US, the only thing it does not have is the backlit keyboard.


• Genuine Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
• Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-720QM Processor (1.6GHz, 6MB L2 Cache, 1333MHz FSB)
• FREE Upgrade to 4GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm) from 3GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
• 500GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
• 1GB Nvidia GeForce GT 230M
• 18.4" diagonal High Definition HP Ultra BrightView Infinity Display (1920x1080p)
• Blu-Ray +/-R/RW with SuperMulti
• Webcam + Fingerprint Reader with HP Imprint Finish (Espresso Black)
• Intel Wireless-N Mini-card with Bluetooth
• HP Integrated HDTV Hybrid Tuner
• HP Color Matching Keyboard
• HP Long Life Notebook Battery
• Microsoft(R) Works 9.0
• HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope

I have this laptop except i upgraded to the i7-820 with 8GB Ram and it handles everything i throw at it. For the price it is an excellent buy to consider.
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Morning Larry, good to see you old northern friend.

Some points I'd like to make first, which would hold true regardless of brand.

When it comes to laptops, seek a 3 year warranty. Laptops are prone to hardware issues more often than desktops, and often require shipping out for repair. Prices for replacement parts outside of warranty are quite high.

With laptops, even more so than desktops, the more RAM the better. While Windows 7 runs better/snappier than Vista, you should still seek 4 gigs minimum, especially since you mention some photo apps.

With Vista and Windows 7, performance of the OS is better when you have dedicated/discrete graphics...since the work load of the OS graphics is offloaded to the GPU. Not to mention, performance of graphics apps is better. So look for a model with dedicated graphics like ATI or nVidia....at least 256 megs.

7,200rpm hard drive. One of the reasons laptops often feel much slower than a desktop PC, is the base models come with 5,400rpm drives. Super budget models, and ultra portables, sometimes come with even slower 4,200rpm drives. 7,200rpm makes it more responsive, and especially for any gaming and photo apps.

Will you be needing MS Office? Dell offers OEM versions of MS Office 2007 Standard at 129.00, Small Business Edition at 159.00 I think, and up from there.

Skip on antivirus, and as soon as you receive it, go to Microsofts site and get Microsoft Security Essentials, which is their own FREE and very good antivirus. If the laptop came with any trial AV, naturally fully uninstall that before installing MSE.

For processors, minimum CPU you should get is an Intel Core 2 Duo. Many less expensive models start with Celerons or older Intel Duo Core processors. The Core 2 Duo should be your minimum for perky performance, if you can, try to upgrade to a CPU with 3 megs cache...as the older base C2D started with 2 megs. The cache isn't a huge thing, but if you can.

If you're a wireless user, I prefer the Intel Wireless upgrade over the stock Dell wireless. The Intel 5300 if you're a heavy wireless user, transfer rates are much higher.

The above all being said, I'll focus on Dell. You may recall in the past seeing me say I prefer Dells Latitude line, which is one of their business grade laptops. Another biz grade laptop is their Precision...more high end graphics, for design work like CAD. And on low end of the biz grade is their relatively newer Vostro line. The Latitudes have higher grade components inside, usually start with a 3 year warranty, less "fluffy" bells and whistles. Support for them is usually better also. However, they command a higher price. And they max at 15.4" screen.

The Vostro line is less expensive, less bells and whistles, I think default with a 1 year warranty. You can get a 17" model.

On the "home" category, Dell has their Inspiron/Studio line which has some 17" models.

When on Dells site, first thing to select your models, in the upper left corner choose either Home or Business...and the appropriate lineup becomes available.

Anyways, I ran through a few configurations of Dells laptops with the above specs...I had a hard time keeping the price under $1,400.00.

I got a Vostro 17 at $1,398.00 (US). No lit keyboard though.

I got a Studio 17 at $1,298.00 (US) with a backlit keyboard, no MS Office..just works.

Those are configured prices. For "deals"..Dell has a "Fast Track" setup, where you get pre-configured models for a much lesser price, only drawback is that they're not very configurable...IE you're stuck with a 5,400rpm hard drive, no MS Office options, stuff like that.
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Been using a Dell Latitude for several years now, running XP Pro and Debian Linux. I made a guide about how to install Debian on this model and the beginning is a section "How to purchase Dells and save money".

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Could you get by with a desktop? Large LCD monitors (22" to 28") are available at incredibly low prices.

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Nice to meet you J-high

Thanks for all you time and trouble. Good info. Do you have the model number you recommend?...Thanks

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Morning Brian

Nice to see your Smilin Face as well my friend.

Your input is most welcome and appreciated.

Do you have the model number or site address of the "Studio 17 at $1,298.00 (US) with a backlit keyboard, no MS Office..just works." so i don't screw up...Thanks

Office is not important to me and i have been using the MS Firewall and Security Essentials for awhile on my Desktop and find them to do the job just fine so far.

A few hundred more is not a deal breaker to ensure i get something that will do the job and last for awhile.

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Thanks so much you two i do appreciate your taking the time to respond :)

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Larry I thought I still had your e-mail, I just searched and I apologize, I cannot find it. Would you mind PM'ing me your e-mail addy? I can run a few configurations for you and e-mail you the cart so you can see options and prices and what not.

I do have to hit the road for the day, but since you mention you're not in a rush...so over time I can e-mail you a few different configurations. And we'll have time to see if a good deal comes up, when I see one, I'll e-mail you.
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Hi TonyT

Nice to see you again TonyT and i appreciate your reply. Will look into it and absorb what i can.

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Morning David

I do have a desktop now David & bought a large sized Dell 2408 WFP which is terrific, but wish to have a portable that i can use away from home. I do however require as much ease as possible on the old peepers.

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Minir,

You can follow this link to the HP customizable laptops HP. Any of them are good but the DV7's have the screen size you are looking, and the DV8's have a 18" screen. The DV7 and DV8 quad editions have the newest mobile processors which are the Core i7's and the non quad's have Core 2 Duo/Quad. All of the base configurations on these models are well equipped for performance, however they are all customizable for what you are looking performance wise.

I have personally owned 4 of the customizable HP laptops and have never had issues with them.
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Hi J-high

Thanks so much for your troubles. i will take a look now.
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http://www.techbargains.com

They display all the specials going on with laptops from Dell and will help save you alot of money.

Win7 64bit is a givin..don't go for anything less.

4gigs of ram or more and you should be in good shape..I'd also suggest a full warranty with complete care just in case you drop it or drop something on it they will replace for free.
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Morning Sava700


Thanks for your contribution as i need all the ideas and help i can acquire.

Damn if i had spent as much time fussing over the ladies as i do over a comp. i'd no doubt still have a GF. :rotfl:

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good to see you again, minir!


and for what its worth, i have a few 15% off coupons for Dell Outlet on any Latitude or Precision mobile workstations. as they tend to be on the pricey (but great performance and quality) side i doubt they will be what youll gravitate towards, theyre available if you want them (exp. 11/25). or if anyone else needs them, for that matter.
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Faust-

Please read the thread title. Says "experts" not "mouth breathing keyboard banger". I'll go ahead and make a thread for you to reply in titled "Need advice on being a huge jerk-bag", you can come be the resident pro.

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Hi Larry! So nice to see you my friend!

I just recently received an email from Dell, listing their most recent deals on laptops, as well as desk tops. There appears to be quite a substantial savings involved...and maybe just what you are looking for discount & coupon wise?

http://www.dell.com/us/en/home/performa ... W-LOBAX-v1

http://www1.ca.dell.com/content/topics/ ... l=en&s=dhs (canadian link)


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brembo wrote:Faust-

Please read the thread title. Says "experts" not "mouth breathing keyboard banger". I'll go ahead and make a thread for you to reply in titled "Need advice on being a huge jerk-bag", you can come be the resident pro.

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HiYa Faust

Thanks very much for your kind offer Faust, but the Latitude seems to be out of my league in price as well as a need for that superior a laptop.

I am looking mostly for a laptop i can take to my Moms to bring her up to date on some of the pics i get from the family which i presently print out for her and some very enjoyable MPEGs i have that i know she'd get a kick out of.

I also want to see if she would take to using a laptop if shown how. Shes still pretty sharp at 91 and I was thinking it might enable me to get her one as well if she'd use it.

Good to see you as well Faust.

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Nice to see you still going out of your way to treat fellow members in such a tender loving manner. :rotfl:

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Thanks to you as well Tink. Will store away as i muddle through this situation in the hopes of coming out right side up. :confused:

Nice to see your Smilin Face as well.

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Faust wrote:if this is your way of asking me out on a date, it aint working :p

Would a joint WoW account sway you any?

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brembo wrote:Would a joint WoW account sway you any?

Minir- Sorry for spammin up yer thread.
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brembo if they took away your spammin you'd be known as Silent Sam. ;)

Not to worry as its always nice to see your mug as well brembo. :)

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Not to stray from the topic Minir, but we used to have those auto threads, and enjoyed picking on recent " Bangle bloated" BMW models. I saw a new model a few times that I actually like, the "X6". He didn't mess that one up too much. :cool:
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no worries, minir :)

recently i bought a Dell 1545 for my bang-around use at http://www.dell.com/outlet . great entry level lappy with only a couple minor irritants (no activity/indicator lights on the case... such as caps lock or hdd activity). they cycle through stock rather quickly, and if youre patient you can find them for very modest prices (mine was $339 plus shipping/tax, but i shopped for about a month). same default 1yr tech support and warrantee their new-orders get. you can extend that also. they also upgraded me to win7 at no cost as well. for $1k CDN you should have no probs getting one with a premium config.
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YeOldeStonecat wrote:Not to stray from the topic Minir, but we used to have those auto threads, and enjoyed picking on recent " Bangle bloated" BMW models. I saw a new model a few times that I actually like, the "X6". He didn't mess that one up too much. :cool:
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I agree Cat. Now that Bangle is gone its nice to see his mess is being cleaned up a bit at a time as the newer models most definately show improvement. I really wonder how much he cost the company in sales and customer satisfaction whilst their. A monumental mistake on BMW's part for sure.

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Faust wrote:no worries, minir :)

recently i bought a Dell 1545 for my bang-around use at http://www.dell.com/outlet . great entry level lappy with only a couple minor irritants (no activity/indicator lights on the case... such as caps lock or hdd activity). they cycle through stock rather quickly, and if youre patient you can find them for very modest prices (mine was $339 plus shipping/tax, but i shopped for about a month). same default 1yr tech support and warrantee their new-orders get. you can extend that also. they also upgraded me to win7 at no cost as well. for $1k CDN you should have no probs getting one with a premium config.
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Thanks again Faust


Man they make something for everyone and you had better know what you are getting it seems. I have time on my side so i will try to absorb as much as i can and go from their.

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I do further support the authorized factory outlets. You often can get lucky and get a totally brand new laptop at a much reduced price. Typically it's a lightly used laptop, from a corporate short term lease. My past several laptops have been purchased in this manner. Been happy with every single one. My current laptop that I'm typing from was a higher end Thinkpad at the time, a T60P, brand new was approx $2,100 bucks, I paid $680.00. Was still in the shrink wrap, never used, warranty still good.
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minir wrote:---

I agree Cat. Now that Bangle is gone its nice to see his mess is being cleaned r
I read he was still there at the time this was designed, back in 07 I think it was on the paper. The article on it I read he was "boss" of the design department, but this X6 model was penned by a Pierre Leclerq or something like that.

I remember reading a beefed up "M" series that could hit 171mph. That's moving out for a sport utish vehicle.
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Hi Minir.
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CableDude wrote:Hi Minir.
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Hows it hanging CableDude :)

Thanks for the Hi & i hope all is well with you and yours.

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Hi Minir :)

Hope you're doing well, always good to hear your voice here.
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Humboldt wrote:Hi Minir :)

Hope you're doing well, always good to hear your voice here.
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Hi back at ya Humboldt :)

Things are good (Other than my beloved Leafs Suck again :( ) as i hope they are with you as well Humboldt.

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YeOldeStonecat wrote:I do further support the authorized factory outlets. You often can get lucky and get a totally brand new laptop at a much reduced price. Typically it's a lightly used laptop, from a corporate short term lease. My past several laptops have been purchased in this manner. Been happy with every single one. My current laptop that I'm typing from was a higher end Thinkpad at the time, a T60P, brand new was approx $2,100 bucks, I paid $680.00. Was still in the shrink wrap, never used, warranty still good.
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Hi Brian

No luck here on the refurbished Dell site. Nothing that seems to answer my needs unfortunately.

Did you receive my email address via the PM i sent to you yesterday? Been away so long i have forgotten how to navigate the site.

Am seriouly considering the Dell Studio 17 as it seems well rated from what i can gather.

I was finally able to get Satellite Internet here and am now off the dialup i had to suffer with for years. Satellite has some restrictions but its speed more than makes up for it, that and the unlimited downloading from 2AM to 7AM :thumb:

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I did receive your PM Larry, thanks.

A note regarding the factory outlet sites...their stock is constantly rotating with new returns, which don't stay on the shelves for long. So it's something that, if you have the time and no rush to purchase, to just keep an eye on.
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YeOldeStonecat wrote:I did receive your PM Larry, thanks.

A note regarding the factory outlet sites...their stock is constantly rotating with new returns, which don't stay on the shelves for long. So it's something that, if you have the time and no rush to purchase, to just keep an eye on.
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Thanks as always my friend. Have a terrific weekend.

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Hi Brian

No luck here on the refurbished Dell site. Nothing that seems to answer my needs unfortunately.

Did you receive my email address via the PM i sent to you yesterday? Been away so long i have forgotten how to navigate the site.

Am seriouly considering the Dell Studio 17 as it seems well rated from what i can gather.

I was finally able to get Satellite Internet here and am now off the dialup i had to suffer with for years. Satellite has some restrictions but its speed more than makes up for it, that and the unlimited downloading from 2AM to 7AM :thumb:

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Do they not offer wireless internet where you live? If you get Digital cellular cellphone service you should be able to get it:

http://rogers.com/web/content/internet-mobile

http://bell.ca/shopping/PrsShpInt_NewAc ... erType=NEW

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nightowl wrote:Hi Larry,

Do they not offer wireless internet where you live? If you get Digital cellular cellphone service you should be able to get it:

http://rogers.com/web/content/internet-mobile

http://bell.ca/shopping/PrsShpInt_NewAc ... erType=NEW

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Morning nightowl

No such luck nightowl. They are close but do not reach here as of yet unfortunately. The Xplornet Satellite that i went with are hoping to tweak their tower coverage within a year or so and will allow me to switch over at no cost.

The only drawback is i had to purchase my Satellite equipment and it was expensive. My hope is if and when wireless hits i can sell my modem and dish and recoop some of the money i spent.

As of now i'm elated to have satellite as dialup was a real drag over the many years that it was my only choice here.

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Hi Again

Just wanted to say a big Thank You to all who took the time to offer their advice on a laptop for myself. It sure is appreciated and now that i have the info i am going to take the time to look around for a good deal which hopefully either Christmas or New Years Sales might supply.

Thanks for everything :thumb:

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minir wrote:...for a good deal which hopefully either Christmas or New Years Sales might supply.
the factory outlets should be absolutely swimming with stock after x-mas.
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Faust wrote:the factory outlets should be absolutely swimming with stock after x-mas.
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Thats a great idea Faust...Thanks. :)

Enjoy your weekend my friend

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YeOldeStonecat wrote:I read he was still there at the time this was designed, back in 07 I think it was on the paper. The article on it I read he was "boss" of the design department, but this X6 model was penned by a Pierre Leclerq or something like that.

I remember reading a beefed up "M" series that could hit 171mph. That's moving out for a sport utish vehicle.
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Here's one you might like YOSC...BMW 5 Series Gran Turismo - is it a saloon, estate, or 4x4? The tail end takes a bit of getting used to, a bit Banglish, but overall quite a package.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/mo ... -auto.html

As an aside i came across this at Costco here in Canada


Dell™ Studio
17 English
i7-720QM, 17.3-in. HD WLED
4 GB, 500 GB
1 GB ATI Mobility Radeon® HD 4650
Microsoft® Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-bit

COST $1,149.99 CND

What do you think. It lacks a lighted keyboard but overall looks good?

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http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.asp ... en-CA&Sp=C

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Tough to beat that price on Dells online, that model laptop starts at $1,099 as it shows today, in US dollars....base config is 1 year warranty and 250 gig drive. To bump it to 2 year and 500 gig brings the price up well over the price you have,....around $1,300.00. And Costco shows they're extending the warranty to 2 years.

On Dells website, you can upgrade to a back lit keyboard for that model, $25.00 upgrade.

Perhaps Costco can offer that upgrade? If not...if a back lit keyboard is an important feature for you, perhaps with the flush of coupons we're seeing in this thread we can build one on Dells site and match/beat Costcos price.
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