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Barry hit 755

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:02 pm
by Roody
:wth:

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:05 pm
by Indy
Hopefully Alex Rodriguez or Ken Griffey Jr. will come along down the road and blow by him like he was standing still, nulifying his so-called record.

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:05 pm
by downhill
Even though I'm not convinced that his enhancing drugs actually give him more eye to hand coordination in actually helping him hit the ball, that record will be forever tarnished.

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:08 pm
by Noevo
**** him

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:09 pm
by Indy
From USA Today:
Several fans held up asterisk signs and Bonds was booed as he headed to left field at the end of the inning.

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:09 pm
by downhill
Noevo wrote:**** him

Huh? star him?

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:10 pm
by Noevo
downhill wrote:Huh? star him?
sure, that works lol

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:11 pm
by Indy
downhill wrote:Huh? star him?
*^4

Asterick to the power of 4 heh

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:12 pm
by Izzo
couldn't care less

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:14 pm
by Jim
downhill wrote:Even though I'm not convinced that his enhancing drugs actually give him more eye to hand coordination in actually helping him hit the ball, that record will be forever tarnished.
I don't know if many people are doubting that Bonds is (or was) a great ballplayer, but many of us are quite saddened that a solid hitter has left a black mark on his own record by (allegedly) 'roiding up.

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:23 pm
by downhill
Jim wrote:I don't know if many people are doubting that Bonds is (or was) a great ballplayer, but many of us are quite saddened that a solid hitter has left a black mark on his own record by (allegedly) 'roiding up.

Yep, I happen to agree with that. I was only making a comment showing the other side of the coin. IMHO, even though I did comment on his ability to find the ball, I suppose I should also mention that if indeed it's shown that he's really doing enhanching drugs, and it looks like that's a given, then your more than right, that record is tarnished. After all, it would still give him an advantage in swinging hard and even prolong his involvment in the game, thus giving him more time to pursue the record.

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:23 pm
by Randy
just say no to Barry

help fight the war on Barrys

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:30 pm
by YARDofSTUF
Awesome job Barry!

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:30 pm
by Noevo
Randy wrote:just say to to Barry

help fight the war on Barrys
i love canadian beer lol

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:34 pm
by downhill
Noevo wrote:i love canadian beer lol
:rotfl:

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:42 pm
by Randy
#4

cheers barry!,, cheers to you, you sonofa yatch hole

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 1:18 am
by Kyle
Time to sell the rookies!! :D

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 2:23 am
by Blisster
BASEBALL PLAYERS TAKE STEROIDS???? SAY IT ISNT SO!!!! :eek:

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:59 am
by Roody
Jim wrote:I don't know if many people are doubting that Bonds is (or was) a great ballplayer, but many of us are quite saddened that a solid hitter has left a black mark on his own record by (allegedly) 'roiding up.
There is nothing allegedly about it. It's already been proven that he used steroids. Barry's argument though is that he had no idea he had. :rolleyes:

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:42 am
by Dan
downhill wrote:Yep, I happen to agree with that. I was only making a comment showing the other side of the coin. IMHO, even though I did comment on his ability to find the ball, I suppose I should also mention that if indeed it's shown that he's really doing enhanching drugs, and it looks like that's a given, then your more than right, that record is tarnished. After all, it would still give him an advantage in swinging hard and even prolong his involvment in the game, thus giving him more time to pursue the record.
right! did Hank Aaron do the enhancing drugs? :nope:

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:57 am
by Think
Blisster wrote:BASEBALL PLAYERS TAKE STEROIDS???? SAY IT ISNT SO!!!! :eek:
Why bother - the sport sucks.

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:07 pm
by Sava700
Think wrote:Why bother - the sport sucks.
agreed

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:09 pm
by Lefty
Sava700 wrote:agreed
seems like all sports have a black eye... Dog fighting, oui's, point fixxing, doping (TDF) steroids...

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:15 pm
by Brk
Guess what?

This **** doesn't matter that much!

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:21 pm
by Dan
Burke wrote:Guess what?

This **** doesn't matter that much!
neither does most the crap posted here

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:54 pm
by Dan
I forgot to add the :rolleyes: and the :p

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 2:41 pm
by Blisster
Dan wrote:I forgot to add the :rolleyes: and the :p

its a good thing you added those, I was about to report your post!


:p :thumb: :D

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 2:58 pm
by knightmare
I'm sure multi-millionaires like Barry, could really care less, as long as they are paid...

Juiced up players, juiced up balls, corked/pine tar bats,...

where there is money to be made, everyone wants the edge****

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:19 pm
by Jim
Roody wrote:There is nothing allegedly about it. It's already been proven that he used steroids. Barry's argument though is that he had no idea he had. :rolleyes:
His supporters still throw out the fact that Mr. Bonds has still yet to fail a single drug test.

Don't get me wrong, I believe Bonds knowingly took the stuff, but without more proof, his record will stand.

I'm sure Giamatti has been rolling in his grave more than a few times over this issue alone.

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:22 pm
by Roody
Jim wrote:His supporters still throw out the fact that Mr. Bonds has still yet to fail a single drug test.

Don't get me wrong, I believe Bonds knowingly took the stuff, but without more proof, his record will stand.

I'm sure Giamatti has been rolling in his grave more than a few times over this issue alone.
I agree, but man he is definitely guilty. You ever read Book of Shadows. The crap they got on him is mind blowing. The sad thing is Barry had amazing talent even before he started using that crap. Sure he likely wouldn't have broken the record had he not taken the stuff, but he could have easily gone down as the greatest player in my generation for sure. Unfortunately, he chose to put that in question when he started doing that crap.

:(

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:27 pm
by Jim
All I want for Christmas: An asterisk, and a vow from the BBWAA never to elect Bonds into the Hall of Fame.

EDIT: And yes, I did read the book and wholeheartedly recommend it to anyone with an interest in baseball. Not that this stuff hasn't gone on in the past, but crap like this is why my interest in the sport is only a tiny fraction of what it was in the 80's and (pre-strike) 90's.

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:30 pm
by Roody
Jim wrote:All I want for Christmas: An asterisk, and a vow from the BBWAA never to elect Bonds into the Hall of Fame.

EDIT: And yes, I did read the book and wholeheartedly recommend it to anyone with an interest in baseball. Not that this stuff hasn't gone on in the past, but crap like this is why my interest in the sport is only a tiny fraction of what it was in the 80's and (pre-strike) 90's.
Agreed.

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:34 pm
by David
Jim wrote:All I want for Christmas: An asterisk, and a vow from the BBWAA never to elect Bonds into the Hall of Fame.

EDIT: And yes, I did read the book and wholeheartedly recommend it to anyone with an interest in baseball. Not that this stuff hasn't gone on in the past, but crap like this is why my interest in the sport is only a tiny fraction of what it was in the 80's and (pre-strike) 90's.
The steroid era brought fans back. Hallowed records fell, heroes and anti-heroes roamed the ballparks, the excitement returned to the game. Sadly, it was a lie.

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:37 am
by Gixxer
Indy wrote:Hopefully Alex Rodriguez or Ken Griffey Jr. will come along down the road and blow by him like he was standing still, nulifying his so-called record.
not sure about griffey, but arod should take this over sooner or later

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:39 am
by Roody
Gixxer wrote:not sure about griffey, but arod should take this over sooner or later
Barring an injury I agree.

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:00 pm
by Spammy
Truth as it is, It is a milestone and good for him.

He is just getting a lot of slack because he is one of the few to get caught. There are tons of baseball players on Roids...

Good job Barry

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:10 pm
by Comtrad
Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

I admit I would like to have seen Hank Aaron keep the record, but I won't slam a milestone until he comes up guilty (as likely as it seems).

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:24 pm
by Spammy
Comtrad wrote:Whatever happened to guilty until proven guilty?

I admit I would like to have seen Hank Aaron keep the record, but I won't slam a milestone until he comes up guilty (as likely as it seems).
:thumb:

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:53 pm
by Roody
Comtrad wrote:Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

I admit I would like to have seen Hank Aaron keep the record, but I won't slam a milestone until he comes up guilty (as likely as it seems).
No one disputes that, but it's already been proven that Bonds used steroids. He got away with it though because there was no specific laws prohibiting it's usage at the time in MLB. Barry Bonds is 100% guilty of using it. That has already been shown.

Ignorance as Barry claims the situation to be is not a valid defense.

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:02 pm
by Jim
David wrote:The steroid era brought fans back. Hallowed records fell, heroes and anti-heroes roamed the ballparks, the excitement returned to the game. Sadly, it was a lie.
Even without being blessed with any sort of clairvoyance, it was obvious to me from the start that half of these record-breakers were simply shams, and the MLB was not going to get in their way since they were filling the ballparks again.

I don't know if the fans who ignored such an obvious farce and blindly cheered them on should be considered sellouts of simply hopeless romantics trying to cling onto what was still good about the game.