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New Case and CPU Cooler.. What do you think?
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:32 am
by EvilAjax
Well, I tried to OC my CPU today. Used TAT to monitor the temperatures. You will not believe the numbers I got. 52C Idle, and 71C with 100% workload on both sides. WTF. Stock fan sucked. So what I did was open my case, and put a "Cool Breeze" name brand fan (about 1 foot tall) and faced it to my mobo, and other hardware... the temp dropped dramatically. Now I get 38C idle, and 50 with workload. Woot!
it's a start. Also, my GPU was 85C! (8800 GTS) That's idle.. now it's 55C.. more reasonable.
Anyway, I'm going to get this case. (unless otherwise recommended to a better one at the same price range)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811103014
Nice IMO. My friend says this case has the perfect airflow. He doesn't have the plus version though (above).
And this CPU cooler.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6835118019
What do you guys think? I need to OC this baby bad! Bottlenecking is not cool.
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:33 am
by YARDofSTUF
Jesus christ, fans big enough? lol
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:56 am
by EvilAjax
LOL
It's a full tower though.. so I can fit a baby in there if I wanted to.
What do you think though?
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:17 am
by YARDofSTUF
I wonder how well the airflow is, big side fan like that looks liek it might mess up the flow.
Reviews seem good though.
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:23 am
by Sava700
your going to regret that idea... they will pull in massive amounts of dust without a filter on them and then that cuts airflow, I suggest a simple front and back 120mm for push and pull and just water cool the CPU cause with it water cooled the heat coming off it won't go around the mobo and everything else so in turn the heat in the whole case will go down. I'm using one of those zalman radiator towers to cool mine which is complete silent!
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 2:28 pm
by EvilAjax
any suggestions? btw, the front one blows air in the case and the side one blows it out.
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:16 pm
by Sava700
EvilAjax wrote:any suggestions? btw, the front one blows air in the case and the side one blows it out.
see post above.
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:39 pm
by YARDofSTUF
So with the massive side fan and a psu fan you'll have negative pressure in the case from the looks of it.
I think the front fan is nice, large fans are good. Thats a good clloer too, that and the scythe blow air to the side, so you can have it blowing towards the fan in the back of most cases to push the hot air out of the case and not down onto the mobo.
Those fans with the stuff behind/infront of them dont look to have the best air flow.
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:22 pm
by Unholy
Maybe you can change your cooler to a
Thermaltake Big Typhoon VX, have the side fan blowing in and the front and back fan blowing out.
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:37 pm
by lonewolfz28
EvilAjax wrote:any suggestions? btw, the front one blows air in the case and the side one blows it out.
If you look at the way the fan blades are shaped on that side fan in the picture you can see that they have it blowing into the case.
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:47 pm
by EvilAjax
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:51 pm
by Easto
As I get older I seem to like "quiet" more.
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:27 pm
by YARDofSTUF
I like that Antec a lot more.
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:42 am
by Rivas
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:07 am
by EvilAjax
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811146029
Those are too pricey for me Rivas. I like the one I linked here too.
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:14 am
by Rivas
yah found it on newegg, it's more expansive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811133152
get that Asetek cpu cooler
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 5:11 am
by EvilAjax
I was thinking more on the lines about this cooler.
It's supposed to be one of th best.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6835154001
Tuniq Tower.
I just don't know if it will fit on the first case I posted, which is the case I have my eyes set on.
These are the TT's dimensions.
Fan Dimensions document.write(neg_specification_newline('120 x 120 x 25mm'));120 x 120 x 25mm Heatsink Dimensions document.write(neg_specification_newline('131 x 108 x 153mm'));131 x 108 x 153mm
These are the first case's dimensions..
19.4'' x 8.1'' x 18.4'' (L x W x H)
The second case I posted is a full tower, so it will definitely fit there. It costs $20 more though... but I've heard it's worth it.
What do you guys think?
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:52 am
by Sava700
jesus cooler... if your going to go that high just water cool the CPU like I said before..just doing that will drop your case temps too cause it will pull the heat to a water source instead of pushing it out in the case.
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:37 am
by EvilAjax
link?
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:17 pm
by Rivas
I have that TT case, it's big, enough room, good airflow.
That asetek cooler is filled up with refrigerator gas, it's not so big and not so loud, and it's good for OCing.
Technically the VapoChill Micro™ CPU coolers are characterized by hermetically sealed gas/liquid chambers exploiting the most effective cooling principle available: phase change cooling.
LINK
Water cooling ...you have to remember your temperatures are always going to be ambient.
LINK
Extreme (phase) cooling with negative temperatures :
The VapoChill® cooling system (first version released 1997) is the most spectacular cooling system ever build with the intention of overclocking your CPU to extreme speeds.
The basic principle behind the VapoChill® cooling system is the utilization of a compressor (vapor compression cycle...) to remove the heat dissipated from your CPU. The use of the vapor compression cycle makes the heat removal 10 times more efficient as water cooling and 50 times more efficient than air cooling - and at SUB-ZERO temperatures.
Due to its superior performance and technology the VapoChill is beyond any doubt the tool that will bring you on top of the charts... By using the VapoChill technology to cool your Intel or AMD CPU's overclocks of 20-60% above standard performance is obtainable.
Link
I have to mention every component from ASETEK is made in Denmark, not in China or Taiwan, they have stickers on every product even on the Waterchill and Vapochill LS motherboards NOT MADE IN ASIA or NOT MADE IN CHINA/TAIWAN.
Their RMA (faulty units) were 1.8% in last 3 years.
Hope I did help.
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 4:40 pm
by Joel
EvilAjax wrote:I was thinking more on the lines about this cooler.
It's supposed to be one of th best.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6835154001
Tuniq Tower.
I just don't know if it will fit on the first case I posted, which is the case I have my eyes set on.
These are the TT's dimensions.
Fan Dimensions document.write(neg_specification_newline('120 x 120 x 25mm'));120 x 120 x 25mm Heatsink Dimensions document.write(neg_specification_newline('131 x 108 x 153mm'));131 x 108 x 153mm
These are the first case's dimensions..
19.4'' x 8.1'' x 18.4'' (L x W x H)
The second case I posted is a full tower, so it will definitely fit there. It costs $20 more though... but I've heard it's worth it.
What do you guys think?
The Zalman 9700 you had in your first post is pretty good. I recently installed one on a friends computer (Gigabyte DS3, E6400, some crappy ram) and with his CPU at 3.4GHz, it runs full load mid 40s. His case airflow blows too.
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 5:12 pm
by EvilAjax
Joel wrote:The Zalman 9700 you had in your first post is pretty good. I recently installed one on a friends computer (Gigabyte DS3, E6400, some crappy ram) and with his CPU at 3.4GHz, it runs full load mid 40s. His case airflow blows too.
Thanks Sava, and you too Joel.
I think I will get the cooler first, then the case later.
Even though I care more about my video card's temperature.
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:01 pm
by EvilAjax
I just ordered it from newegg. Comes in 3 days.
(Tuniq tuner cooler)
I'll order a case in about a week since I'm still undecided.
Still taking suggestions though.
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:53 pm
by Sava700
EvilAjax wrote:Thanks Sava, and you too Joel.
I think I will get the cooler first, then the case later.
Even though I care more about my video card's temperature.
You can always get a water block for the vid card and tap off the feed to the CPU to the card....not only will that knock down on temps for the card but also the sound from the case
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:52 pm
by EvilAjax
I honestly hear no sound whatsoever from my case.
The Tuniq Tower is installed and it is huge. It's so big I can put the cover on. So I'm ordering a case from newegg..
It's about half an inch sticking out of my 7 inch wide current case... what size should I get? The first one I posted is almost 9 inches wide.. the second one is about 8.1
and this one is 8.3inches
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811146029
Should I get this one?
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:06 pm
by YARDofSTUF
Its up to you, pick one ya like.
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:51 am
by 64bit
I just picked this up today. It does a very good job of cooling anything you put in it and its relatively quiet doing it. One thing that is not so great is the cabling options are non existent. I imagine if you take off the middle fan you could get more a little more room but there just isn't enough cracks and crevices. I like it though.
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:07 pm
by AMPLIFRIER
Easto wrote:As I get older I seem to like "quiet" more.
no doubt!
Id love to have a silent system.
just never quite seems to work out that way
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:23 am
by YARDofSTUF
AMPLIFRIER wrote:no doubt!
Id love to have a silent system.
just never quite seems to work out that way
With cases using 120mm fans now its easier to have a quiet case and good cooling.