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Because Tyler didn't answer the question, McCarthy suspended him for five days. He recalls the principal reprimanding him by saying his test score could bring down the entire school's performance.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... g&refer=us

WTF!?

There's a good idea. Pull the kid out of school for 5 days and see where his next test scores will be.

School isnt about teaching kids things they dont know and can use in life. Its about getting kids to memorize some junk for standardized testing so that the schools and teachers look good, and look like they are teaching our kids.

downhill wrote:There's a good idea. Pull the kid out of school for 5 days and see where his next test scores will be.

OMG, how can you say that?
These state tests are a joke, designed ENTIRELY to determine how much funding schools receive. The tests are of NO benefit to the students. It would be far easier to base funding upon teacher performance & teacher production, not students' ability to take tests.

The teacher is responsible for the student. If the student fails, don't blame the student, blame the teacher who failed to teach. Punishment NEVER taught anybody anything, period. You cannot educate by instilling a fear in a student, or by making the student feel bad about his choice of action. If my kids went to that school I would yank them out fast!

Out of 74,184 fourth graders taking the WASL test last year, 42.3 percent failed to meet the state standard for writing.

The above is NOT a reflection of student ability. It is a reflection of teacher ability to teach. But, out of fairness to the teachers, it is possible that the state standard for writing may be a pretty goofy standard. Let's face it, the state standards are designed and implemented by educators who cannot teach!

It's a dangerous situation when we have teachers who have been educated using the same methods that lead to failures to learn. And then they themselves become educators who use these teaching methods on the next generation. The result: declining literacy levels.

Don't target the students' failures to learn. Target the teachers & teach them how to teach effectively!

Remove psychology from teaching requirements in teachers' education, and prohibit the use of psychology by teachers and get psychology-psychiatry out of the schools, and soon enough the declining trends will revert.

I find the exam question itself a bit laughable..."picture the principle flying"? Wow...I realize it's only 4th grade...seems like like nursery school fairy tales.

I would slapped the teacher silly ....then I woulda went to work on the principle.....the jail time woulda been worth it.

Yet another reason I stopped teaching.

Idiot people in the school systems.

The public school system has been a joke for decades.

TonyT wrote:OMG, how can you say that?

It's called sarcasm, Tony. I was pointing out the error of the administrator.

Taking the kid out of school for 5 days isn't going to help his grades. It's not like he's going to be sitting home studying.


Schools are scrambling to figure out how to meet the requirements of "No Child Left Behind".

Comtrad wrote:The public school system has been a joke for decades.

Ya, but no child left alive, i mean behind, has made the situation worse.

YARDofSTUF wrote:Ya, but no child left alive, i mean behind, has made the situation worse.

just think.....there were a bunch of stuffed suits that got paid tens of thousands of dollars and slapped each other on the back for thinking that garbage up

Geez

Someone find me an email for the principal. Please.

brembo wrote:Someone find me an email for the principal. Please.

Edit* Wrong Central Park Elementary...sorry Brembo

Though that may not be right. They took her name off the contacts at the schools website, but based on other staffs email, it wasn't hard to figure out.

downhill wrote:It's called sarcasm, Tony. I was pointing out the error of the administrator.

Taking the kid out of school for 5 days isn't going to help his grades. It's not like he's going to be sitting home studying.


Schools are scrambling to figure out how to meet the requirements of "No Child Left Behind".

This exact thing has always been on the top of my gripe list, at least for the California school systems. Send the child home, suspend him/her...for whatever you please, whatever you see as an offense. For heaven sakes, don't make the child stay after school...or stack some extra homework on them, or put them in study hall at recess times....nah...let's REWARD them instead...send 'em home! With the majority of BOTH parents having to work to just be able to raise a family, thus said punished child is free to play on the puter, raid the ice cream stash...you get the picture. Some offenses, granted...deserve suspension..but failing to answer a question? Paleeze!

MissTynker2 wrote:This exact thing has always been on the top of my gripe list, at least for the California school systems. Send the child home, suspend him/her...for whatever you please, whatever you see as an offense. For heaven sakes, don't make the child stay after school...or stack some extra homework on them, or put them in study hall at recess times....nah...let's REWARD them instead...send 'em home! With the majority of BOTH parents having to work to just be able to raise a family, thus said punished child is free to play on the puter, raid the ice cream stash...you get the picture. Some offenses, granted...deserve suspension..but failing to answer a question? Paleeze!

they prolly just execute the kids caught running in the hall

MissTynker2 wrote:This exact thing has always been on the top of my gripe list, at least for the California school systems. Send the child home, suspend him/her...for whatever you please, whatever you see as an offense. For heaven sakes, don't make the child stay after school...or stack some extra homework on them, or put them in study hall at recess times....nah...let's REWARD them instead...send 'em home! With the majority of BOTH parents having to work to just be able to raise a family, thus said punished child is free to play on the puter, raid the ice cream stash...you get the picture. Some offenses, granted...deserve suspension..but failing to answer a question? Paleeze!

But for this "issue" why should the kid even be punished? If he chose not to anser then it should be left at that, he has a valid reason for choosing not to answer.

YARDofSTUF wrote:But for this "issue" why should the kid even be punished? If he chose not to anser then it should be left at that, he has a valid reason for choosing not to answer.

If anything the principal should be thanking him for being respectful to her feelings.

YARDofSTUF wrote:But for this "issue" why should the kid even be punished? If he chose not to anser then it should be left at that, he has a valid reason for choosing not to answer.

That was my point. There should not have been a suspension.

The schools website must be getting slammed because it's currently down on my end.

Email sent.

brembo wrote:Email sent.

If it was sent to the original email address it will probably be returned. Found the wrong Central Park Elementary.

However this should be the correct one, based on this is the correct school district and they just use the first initial and last name for email addresses.

OMcCarthy@asd5.org

downhill wrote:It's called sarcasm, Tony. I was pointing out the error of the administrator.

Taking the kid out of school for 5 days isn't going to help his grades. It's not like he's going to be sitting home studying.

Schools are scrambling to figure out how to meet the requirements of "No Child Left Behind".

I apologize, I had taken the remark as serious. You'll have to forgive me, I had been discussing similar issues lately and was surprised to see that people DO think the administrators/teachers are correct in such circumstances.

The lady on the right is the principal.



and the list of staff emails

http://www.asd5.org/asd/CentralPark2/staffcp.htm

Roody wrote:The lady on the right is the principal.



and the list of staff emails ]http://www.asd5.org/asd/CentralPark2/staffcp.htm[/url]

It all makes sense now.

Someone please send this lady a gigolo.

another reason they have issues at that school, check out the yummy healthy nutritious lunch menu:
http://www.asd5.org/asd/lunch/cpark.htm

Here is another article about this. It includes a picture of the kid and his Mom.

http://www.seattleweekly.com/news/0547/ ... s_wasl.php

TonyT wrote:another reason they have issues at that school, check out the yummy healthy nutritious lunch menu:
http://www.asd5.org/asd/lunch/cpark.htm

TonyT wrote:another reason they have issues at that school, check out the yummy healthy nutritious lunch menu:
http://www.asd5.org/asd/lunch/cpark.htm

I dont see that being an issue at schools. Unless theres a shootout for more pizza.

YARDofSTUF wrote:I dont see that being an issue at schools. Unless theres a shootout for more pizza.

The problem lies where the parents are becoming too busy to pack good lunches for their kids, and just throw them a few bucks for lunch. Kids aren't going to pick out the healthy products over the tasty snack ones. So I think that schools should adapt to a more nutritious menu.

Comtrad wrote:It all makes sense now.

Someone please send this lady a gigolo.

Sent...

Comtrad wrote:The problem lies where the parents are becoming too busy to pack good lunches for their kids, and just throw them a few bucks for lunch. Kids aren't going to pick out the healthy products over the tasty snack ones. So I think that schools should adapt to a more nutritious menu.

Agreed. The wife and I are trying to stress the importance of healthy food on our kids. Zachary is 5, and Morgan is just 1, but we really watch what we eat because we know they will likely end up eating what we feed them now for the rest of their lives.

Comtrad wrote:The problem lies where the parents are becoming too busy to pack good lunches for their kids, and just throw them a few bucks for lunch. Kids aren't going to pick out the healthy products over the tasty snack ones. So I think that schools should adapt to a more nutritious menu.

I had pizza everyday for 4 years for lunch, I wouldnt let you change that! Never!

Then you better plan on packing their lunches everyday for school.

I say get them little bastards nice and fat. They would be less inclined to cause trouble and be easier to catch in the event the constant fat jokes i would be screaming didn't crush their spirit. Man I love kids!
I don't agree with what the school did, that said, this kid sounds a bit too sensitive for the real world at this point.

64bit wrote:that said, this kid sounds a bit too sensitive for the real world at this point.

Well the kid is only a 4th grader! lol

YARDofSTUF wrote:Well the kid is only a 4th grader! lol

I don't know. I think by the 4th grade you should be able to control yourself enough to write a few paragraphs on a test.

They created a monster. He'll never take that test again, even if I have to take him to another state,'' she says.

I think the dramatics right here is a good indication of this kids problem.

64bit wrote:I think the dramatics right here is a good indication of this kids problem.

I agree on that pointand would liek to add stupidity to your dramatics