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9/11 Pentagon Video to go public today...
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 2:42 pm
by Izzo
so says CNN when I dropped in. I'm pissed I gotta wait to see this until tonight. Someone let me know their thought if/when they see this.
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 2:57 pm
by YARDofSTUF
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 2:57 pm
by Prey521
Showtime! thread covers this, but it's very misleading, so I don't blame you for the repost

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 2:59 pm
by Izzo
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 3:09 pm
by koldchillah
thread # 200000.. EXACTLY.

hmmm... looks like a conspiracy if ya ask me.

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 3:27 pm
by Prey521
Site is still not loading! I bet that all this hype over the video will show nothing good or "new".
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 3:30 pm
by DV
Prey521 wrote:Site is still not loading! I bet that all this hype over the video will show nothing good or "new".
I can't get the video from any sources. My bet is Prey has launched several DOS attacks against the hosts to keep the truth from coming out.
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 3:42 pm
by SteelersFANinMA
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 3:45 pm
by Brk
Oh my God, are they SERIOUS?
Does the white object coming in from the right side of the screen look like a HUGE COMMERCIAL AIRLINER?
Hell no, it looks like a damned missile.
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 3:47 pm
by SteelersFANinMA
Burke wrote:Oh my God, are they SERIOUS?
Does the white object coming in from the right side of the screen look like a HUGE COMMERCIAL AIRLINER?
Hell no, it looks like a damned missile.
LOL, that would have to be one hell of a landing.

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 3:55 pm
by Brk
SteelersFANinMA wrote:LOL, that would have to be one hell of a landing.
Even considering perspective and distance and the fisheye lens of the camera...I mean, how in the world can ANYONE think THAT is a commercial airliner? Skittering along inches above the ground at hundreds of miles an hour without a skip or jerk?
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 3:57 pm
by YARDofSTUF
Burke wrote:Even considering perspective and distance and the fisheye lens of the camera...I mean, how in the world can ANYONE think THAT is a commercial airliner? Skittering along inches above the ground at hundreds of miles an hour without a skip or jerk?
What airplane is it suppose to be?
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:03 pm
by Brk
YARDofSTUF wrote:What airplane is it suppose to be?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_757
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:03 pm
by Leatherneck
If it were a missle, then it would probably be (or something very simialr) to a Tomahawk cruise missle which is just over 6 meters long and .5 meters in width. It's so obvious the object in the video is so much larger.
Must be the "super-secret" 70 meter long conspiricy missle

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:04 pm
by koldchillah
So THIS is what's supposed to quell the conspiracy theorists?
I've paused the few frames where the miss... I mean, missing airliner supposedly flew by and I gotta tell ya, it don't look right.
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:05 pm
by Ghosthunter
finally ok now 9/11 conspirators can stop...
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:07 pm
by Brk
Ghosthunter wrote:finally ok now 9/11 conspirators can stop...
You are so deluded it's impossible to fathom.
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:08 pm
by Ghosthunter
that is obviously a plane....not a missile
your also forgetting what kind of camera we are watching this from
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:11 pm
by Leatherneck
..and what sort of payload did this conspiricy missle carry? JP4 perhaps? The damage caused was from an impact and fuel. If it were a missle, I bet there would have been much more carnage.
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:12 pm
by Ghosthunter
if you take a screenshot and zoom you can see the back tail...do missiles have tails like planes?
if they were going to fake it...could have done a much better job
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:16 pm
by YARDofSTUF
Ghosthunter wrote:that is obviously a plane....not a missile
your also forgetting what kind of camera we are watching this from
It doesnt look like a 757
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:17 pm
by Ghosthunter
YARDofSTUF wrote:It doesnt look like a 757
moving way too fast and the camera is not great quality to tell exactly what kind but it obviously a plane and not a missile
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:17 pm
by YARDofSTUF
bigmo66 wrote:..and what sort of payload did this conspiricy missle carry? JP4 perhaps? The damage caused was from an impact and fuel. If it were a missle, I bet there would have been much more carnage.
An empty missle? maybe a smaller plane wuith no passengers and teh the people on teh 757 have been offered to aliens to protect the earth from an invasion!
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:19 pm
by SteelersFANinMA
Not all conspiracy theories on the Pentagon attack insist that it was a missile that hit the building. Some suggest that it was a smaller plane, military jet or anything other than Flight 77.
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:19 pm
by YARDofSTUF
Ghosthunter wrote:moving way too fast and the camera is not great quality to tell exactly what kind but it obviously a plane and not a missile
Unless they dressed up the missle to look like a plane!
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:20 pm
by Ghosthunter
btw cnn has a much better video then AOL
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:26 pm
by Leatherneck
SteelersFANinMA wrote:Not all conspiracy theories on the Pentagon attack insist that it was a missile that hit the building. Some suggest that it was a smaller plane, military jet or anything other than Flight 77.
Hmm, this picture was taken moments before the attack. Great timing for GW and Cheney to jump off at the last second!

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:29 pm
by Ghosthunter
no matter what people think of the video there were hundreds who actually saw the plane hit...so i guess they are in the conspiracy as well..
know why i dont beleive there is a huge conspiracy..govt cant even get evidence right to prove there were WMD in Iraq..you think they can pull this off? LOL
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:33 pm
by YARDofSTUF
Ghosthunter wrote:know why i dont beleive there is a huge conspiracy..govt cant even get evidence right to prove there were WMD in Iraq..you think they can pull this off? LOL
Did bush write that for you?
They could pull this off easy, outsource the job to India

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:34 pm
by AAF Striker
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:35 pm
by YARDofSTUF
bigmo66 wrote:Hmm, this picture was taken moments before the attack. Great timing for GW and Cheney to jump off at the last second!

I think Dick was still on it when it hit.
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:35 pm
by Ghosthunter
YARDofSTUF wrote:Did bush write that for you?
They could pull this off easy, outsource the job to India
LMAO
just saying if this was all planted...why wouldnt they just say Saddam was behind it instead of Bin laden? Why bother with afghanistan in first place...
our govt cant figure out what is up and what is down..let alone put together some massive conspiracy with no leaks..LOL
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:48 pm
by JawZ
Ghosthunter wrote:if you take a screenshot and zoom you can see the back tail...do missiles have tails like planes?
if they were going to fake it...could have done a much better job

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 5:03 pm
by Ghosthunter
would not a cruise missile go much faster like 1000mph and do heck a lot more damage then a plane only going 350 mph?
If people actually saw the plane do you think they be able to see a missile going that fast?
there are tons more like this of accounts are these people making it up?
http://www.coping.org/911/survivor/pentagon.htm
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 5:18 pm
by Mark
http://www.kfoxtv.com/video/9225749/index.html
another link to the video, one thing to remember here, that video is like 1 frame per half second frame rate, a bit different from normal video which is 30FPS, kinda hard to really tell what we are seeing here.
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 5:20 pm
by jz82
Cruise missiles can go sub-sonic, but that's not the issue.
I do believe a plane hit the Pentagon. People who doubt this overlook eye witness accounts and cherry pick images. The issue is the following...
- Why was the plane allowed to fly from Ohio/West Virginia border to D.C. after the WTC's were hit?
- Andrews AFB is ~10 miles from the Pentagon, why didn't they scramble fighters to protect D.C.?
- What are the odds the plane would hit the one section of the Pentagon being renovated? Mathematically, it's 20%, but the renovation was public knowledge, meaning anyone studying their target would identify the best place to hit. The opposite side had all the Pentagon's top brass.
- Would someone behind the controls of a 757 for the first time have the ability to fly a few feet off the ground at several hundred mph? I'd say it's unlikely.
My personal belief is that the plane was being remotely guided or on automation. I wouldn't be surprised if another possibility turned out to be true, but this was a one time event and the events point me towards that direction.
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 5:23 pm
by YARDofSTUF
Mark wrote:kinda hard to really tell what we are seeing here.

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 5:27 pm
by Mark
YARDofSTUF wrote:
WTH is that thing ?

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 5:30 pm
by Ghosthunter
looks like a flying bathtub? LOL
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 5:31 pm
by YARDofSTUF