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Well I recently built my PC (details in sig) up using some components from my old PC (Ram, DVD/HD drives and video card.) So I’m using my new PC surfing the net and a error message comes up Mozilla has encountered an error and will shutdown, since then (1 week ago) it’s done this 60-80 times (also does this with IE6 and Firefox), and every so often I get a BSoD so I write down the numbers (e.g. 0x0000008e) and I check on the net and I find out that the RAM configuration is incompatible with Windows XP. So I tell my mate and he lent me one of his Corsair 512MB, DDR500/PC4000 and its fine for two days not one BSoD none of the browsers get errors.

So is it because my ram is PC2700 and my CPU is 3000+ because I have no clue what the 3000+ meant on the CPU.

rowie4life wrote:Well I recently built my PC (details in sig) up using some components from my old PC (Ram, DVD/HD drives and video card.) So I’m using my new PC surfing the net and a error message comes up Mozilla has encountered an error and will shutdown, since then (1 week ago) it’s done this 60-80 times (also does this with IE6 and Firefox), and every so often I get a BSoD so I write down the numbers (e.g. 0x0000008e) and I check on the net and I find out that the RAM configuration is incompatible with Windows XP. So I tell my mate and he lent me one of his Corsair 512MB, DDR500/PC4000 and its fine for two days not one BSoD none of the browsers get errors.

So is it because my ram is PC2700 and my CPU is 3000+ because I have no clue what the 3000+ meant on the CPU.

turn off automatic reboot and tell us what the error is

0x0000008e a total of 8 time
0x00000050 twice
0x000000c2 once
0x000000d1 once
0x0000007e once
0x0000004e four times

Rowie.

I would guess that maybe ur 3000+ is a 200mhz fsb chip adn that the 2700 ram can't run that. Do u happen to know what ur fsb?

I've got EasyTune4 up and it says system bus 200mhz. is that it.

Thanx
Rowie.

rowie4life wrote:I've got EasyTune4 up and it says system bus 200mhz. is that it.

Thanx
Rowie.

yes. if i do recall, PC2700 is 166MHz/333MHz frequency. you're trying to run it at 200MHz/400MHz, and spontanious reboots are very very common when RAM is being pushed too far.

I just got another BSoD coooo21a [fatal system error] 0xc000005.

I'm not too savy with the Gigabyte K8VT800 Pro. Does it allow you to fool with your memory timings? If so, try relaxing them a bit.

Faust is probably right. Try to up the Ram voltage. Also see the Event Viewer in the administrative tool. That will also give u more info on whats wrong

gieslel wrote:I'm not too savy with the Gigabyte K8VT800 Pro. Does it allow you to fool with your memory timings? If so, try relaxing them a bit.

This is not a pic of mine but i do have this in my bios. How would i do that then.

you need the pc3200 RAM for stability....the RAM you have is probably too stressed out running at the faster speeds...your overclocking the RAM while the CPU runs at stock speed.

"and I check on the net and I find out that the RAM configuration is incompatible with Windows XP" so does it say why it's incompatible..?? so you know what not to get when you buy new memory?

also the 3000+ is the speed of the processor....rated as 3000+ to be compared with other 3.Ghz processors...but the actual clock speed is 2.1Ghz..

Check ur bios to see if there is a setting to run the ram at a % like 60/70/80% that way u can have your fsb at 200 and ur ram at 166.

drdoug99 wrote:you need the pc3200 RAM for stability....the RAM you have is probably too stressed out running at the faster speeds...your overclocking the RAM while the CPU runs at stock speed.

"and I check on the net and I find out that the RAM configuration is incompatible with Windows XP" so does it say why it's incompatible..?? so you know what not to get when you buy new memory?

also the 3000+ is the speed of the processor....rated as 3000+ to be compared with other 3.Ghz processors...but the actual clock speed is 2.1Ghz..

I agree (speaking from personal experience)

YARDofSTUF wrote:Check ur bios to see if there is a setting to run the ram at a % like 60/70/80% that way u can have your fsb at 200 and ur ram at 166.

I can't find it that

Ctrl+F1 brings this up.

Advanced Chipset Feature

AGP Aperture Size === [128M]
AGP Driving Control === [Auto]
AGP Driving Value === 9B
AGP Fast Write === [Enabled]
PCI Master Bus Time-Out === [7x17 PCLKS]
DBI Output For AGP Trans. === [Disabled]
Upstream LDT Bus Width === [16bit]
Downstream LDT Bus Width === [16bit]
LDT Bus Frequency === [Auto]
PCI Delay Transaction === [Enabled]
Max Memclock === [166]
Current Memclock (Mhz) === 166
DDR Timing Setting BY === [Auto]
CAS# latency === CL = 2.5
Row cycle time === (tRC) === 10Bus Clocks
Row refresh clc time === (tRFC) === 13 Bus Clocks
RAS# to CAS# delay === (tRCD) === 3 Bus Clocks
Row to Row delay === (tRRD) ===2 Bus Clocks
Min RAS# active time === (tRAS) === 7 Bus Clocks
Row percentage time === (tRP) === 3 Bus Clocks
Write recovery time === (tWR) === 3 Bus Clocks
Write to Read delay === (tWTR) === 1 Bus Clock
Read to Write delay === (tRWT) ===4 Bus Clocks
Refresh period === (tREF) === 2x2592 Cycles
Enable 2T timing === [Auto]

What would i have to change to make the ram stable. Because i won't be getting any money for awhile but when i do i will get some pc3200 RAM.

rowie4life wrote:I can't find it that

Ctrl+F1 brings this up.

Advanced Chipset Feature

AGP Aperture Size === [128M]
AGP Driving Control === [Auto]
AGP Driving Value === 9B
AGP Fast Write === [Enabled]
PCI Master Bus Time-Out === [7x17 PCLKS]
DBI Output For AGP Trans. === [Disabled]
Upstream LDT Bus Width === [16bit]
Downstream LDT Bus Width === [16bit]
LDT Bus Frequency === [Auto]
PCI Delay Transaction === [Enabled]
Max Memclock === [166]
Current Memclock (Mhz) === 166
DDR Timing Setting BY === [Auto]
CAS# latency === CL = 2.5
Row cycle time === (tRC) === 10Bus Clocks
Row refresh clc time === (tRFC) === 13 Bus Clocks
RAS# to CAS# delay === (tRCD) === 3 Bus Clocks
Row to Row delay === (tRRD) ===2 Bus Clocks
Min RAS# active time === (tRAS) === 7 Bus Clocks
Row percentage time === (tRP) === 3 Bus Clocks
Write recovery time === (tWR) === 3 Bus Clocks
Write to Read delay === (tWTR) === 1 Bus Clock
Read to Write delay === (tRWT) ===4 Bus Clocks
Refresh period === (tREF) === 2x2592 Cycles
Enable 2T timing === [Auto]

What would i have to change to make the ram stable. Because i won't be getting any money for awhile but when i do i will get some pc3200 RAM.

You're RAM speed is correct, 166...Hmm...Try changing the RAM voltage up a little. Other than that, maybe try and change the CAS to 3, see if that helps. I'm not suspecting it's the ram, though...

Taking the RAM from an old system, and installing into a new, different motherboard, will always open up the door to potential problems.

Tis best to follow the advice of "Always get RAM that is tested on, and approved 100% compatible to work on your motherboard".

Go to a website like Crucial.com
Run through the memory selection utility, select your mobo brand, your mobo model...and you are shown a list of their memory part numbers guaranteed to be compatible with your motherboard. It's not just the speed and parity that's different in memory. Crucial might have 50 different types of PC3200 RAM...not all are equal nor will all run in any system. You have to get ones compatible with your system.

Thank for the info about crucial.
what do these number mean 2.5-4-4-8. Now I know what the 2.5 is the CAS latency but what are the rest.