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Motherboard
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 1:10 pm
by AznStyl
What's the best motherboard out there right now? Mainly for medias such as movies, music, and gaming. Price would be $200 or less. Any input is greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 1:59 pm
by jumpingrat
I like ABIT. Never had any problems and they come loaded (for a price of course) but for around $125 or less you can get one that will support the new Athlon 64 bit deals and for $50 more one that will support the new Intel's.
There are many other good ones in the same class and everyone tends to have a favorite. Some other ones I've used and liked are Soyo & Intel.
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 2:06 pm
by YARDofSTUF
Well how much do u have to spend on other parts?
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 5:00 pm
by AznStyl
Most of the parts are still new. I just want to upgrade the Motherboard and a new tower. Looking for a range of $300 or less including Motherboard + Tower + power suppyl of 400+ watt...
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 5:06 pm
by Brent
what CPU do you have to put in this mobo? gotta know that so we know what platform to look at
as for brand, ABIT hands down
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 5:30 pm
by YeOldeStonecat
Asus is my chosen brand, well known for legendary quality and reliability.
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:07 pm
by YARDofSTUF
YeOldeStonecat wrote:well known for legendary quality and reliability.
Not from alot of recent posts on here LOL
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:09 pm
by YARDofSTUF
why upgrade your motherboard if ur keeping the same stuff in it?
Your not gonna get alot of more media stuff out of a new mobo. some sata ports from cdroms or hard drives, built in audio, the option to use a memory card reader if u buy one. Just little things like that.
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:25 pm
by AznStyl
Brent wrote:what CPU do you have to put in this mobo? gotta know that so we know what platform to look at
as for brand, ABIT hands down
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Field Value
CPU Properties
CPU Type Intel Pentium 4, 1700 MHz (17 x 100)
CPU Alias P68, Willamette, A80528
CPU Stepping D0
Instruction Set x86, MMX, SSE, SSE2
Original Clock 1700 MHz
Engineering Sample No
L1 Trace Cache 12K Instructions
L1 Data Cache 8 KB
L2 Cache 256 KB (On-Die, ATC, Full-Speed)
CPU Physical Info
Package Type 423 Pin PGA
Package Size 5.34 cm x 5.34 cm
Transistors 42 million
Process Technology 6M, 0.18 um, CMOS
Die Size 217 mm2
Core Voltage 1.70 - 1.75 V
I/O Voltage 1.70 - 1.75 V
Typical Power 48.9 - 71.8 W (depending on clock speed)
Maximum Power 66 - 96 W (depending on clock speed)
CPU Manufacturer
Company Name Intel Corporation
Product Information [url]http://www.intel.com/products/browse/processor.htm[/url]
CPU Utilization
CPU #1 13 %
What kind of mother board would fit this? Please give the model/series # of the motherboard as well. Thank you.
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:36 pm
by AznStyl
YARDofSTUF wrote:why upgrade your motherboard if ur keeping the same stuff in it?
Your not gonna get alot of more media stuff out of a new mobo. some sata ports from cdroms or hard drives, built in audio, the option to use a memory card reader if u buy one. Just little things like that.
The current one I'm having right now is about to dying on me... and I'm planning to upgrade everything. So I start with the Motherboard first then move on later on with others.
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:39 pm
by YARDofSTUF
First problem, cpu is a 423
a good mobo allowing u to upgrade well is a 478
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:04 pm
by AznStyl
YARDofSTUF wrote:First problem, cpu is a 423
a good mobo allowing u to upgrade well is a 478
What seem to be the problem with 423? I'm new to hardware stuff, please enlighten me.
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:12 pm
by YARDofSTUF
the 423 socket is older and is for 400mhz bus P4s only i think, maybe some 533.
the 478 allows u to use 533 or 800mhz bus P4s, also has more cache on the chip, the performance is MUCH better.
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:22 pm
by AznStyl
YARDofSTUF wrote:the 423 socket is older and is for 400mhz bus P4s only i think, maybe some 533.
the 478 allows u to use 533 or 800mhz bus P4s, also has more cache on the chip, the performance is MUCH better.
IC, so for now do you think I should upgrade my mobo or should wait and get the new p4 with new motherboard?
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:33 pm
by YeOldeStonecat
YARDofSTUF wrote:Not from alot of recent posts on here LOL
That was just your bad luck or not being careful
From professional sites, and people who have been in the field for a long time, they remain on top.
Anstyl, you have a first generation Pentium 4, several generations old.
Front side bus
Memory speeds
pin count for the socket
All 3x very important things that changed with the versions of Pentium 4s.
Decision must be made...either replace current mobo with one compatible with your existing hardware, and run it til it dies.
-or-
Decide to upgrade primary guts completely...new mobo, new CPU, new RAM.
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:45 pm
by AznStyl
Thanks... I prolly will wait till I get enuff $$ and build a whole new box then.
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:28 am
by YARDofSTUF
YeOldeStonecat wrote:That was just your bad luck or not being careful
Its my bad luck and not being careful for the 3 other guys too? Ok, i'll have to remember that. LOL
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:38 am
by Joint Chiefs of Staff
As with everything in life everyone has there own opinions. Add PC's and hardware into the mix and the responses will always vary.
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:45 am
by Set
YARDofSTUF wrote:Its my bad luck and not being careful for the 3 other guys too? Ok, i'll have to remember that. LOL
Yea but you got to look at the big pic. 3 guys out of how many posters using Asus boards
I'm very happy with my Asus.

Replaced a defective Abit with it.
Its all a crap shoot theres bound to be a percentage of Defective parts in any company's Line. Thats just the way it is...
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 11:50 am
by YARDofSTUF
Set wrote:Yea but you got to look at the big pic. 3 guys out of how many posters using Asus boards
I'm very happy with my Asus.

Replaced a defective Abit with it.
Its all a crap shoot theres bound to be a percentage of Defective parts in any company's Line. Thats just the way it is...
everyon mobo maker seems to get a period of bad time with caps or whatever. abit had one not too long ago, epox seems to be getting close, msi had a long one. Maybe asus had a bad bit or on the way to, but iI'm staying away.
Did u ever post back in that thread on teh locked agp.pci bus?
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 8:38 pm
by Set
No don't think i seen it? And cant seem to dig up a link. Got one or remember the Title?
Thank god for RMAs zoom & Newegg