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Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 1:42 pm**

Al Arabiya TV: Al Qaeda militants behead U.S. hostage Paul Johnson. CNN working to confirm.

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 1:43 pm**

we posted at the same time dohpaul jonhson

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Another american be headed this is making me so sick and join the military and get justice... I'm being dead honest on that

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 1:56 pm**

I work for Lockheed Martin, everyone at work is at a loss. Some very angry, some sad.

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 2:15 pm**

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:05 pm**

As soon as the terrorists made the announcement of the deal, he was as good as dead right at that moment. The US doesn't "bargain."Very sad news, but expected.

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:10 pm**

I'm not even going to start ... You all know where I stand in regards to al qaeda

Prayers to the family

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:34 pm**

i just saw the family on the news this morning, they were praying for his release...

How can anyone back that kinda insanity? How does that group have any followers at all? My thoughts are that God is fair, he will be able to judge them...but we should arrange the meeting..

We need to start "shock and awe" again, hold back on the ground troops for a while and let our flyboys do their thing...

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:48 pm**

******s.

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:54 pm**

we will never stop al qaeda completely until we give them a taste of their own medicine. they are not afraid - we need to make them afraid. sorry if it offends anyone, but that's what i believe.

if you need any more fuel to pi$$ you off about this, i found a link to the "pics" those ba$tards posted of the beheading - don't know if it's ok to post the link here, but it's on the drudge report site

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:56 pm**

I'm 100% agreement with you Jamie....and yeah, I saw the photos!

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:56 pm**

Like Ghost had mentioned. Figured he was all but dead. Only hope I had was maybe a rescue attempt..something.

Sad new's indeed.

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 4:05 pm**

Lockheed Site

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 7:06 pm**

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 8:23 pm**

yes sir

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 8:29 pm**

I was watching oreily tonight he made a good point we need to end thease partionships between right and left we need to unite we have to do what it takes to get thease cowards called alqueda and put and end to this, If any sides of the political party that use this war for political gain should get fired they need to work together like us citizens should .

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 8:50 pm**

Nicely said mccoffee

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:00 pm**

mccoffee wrote:I was watching oreily tonight he made a good point we need to end thease partionships between right and left we need to unite we have to do what it takes to get thease cowards called alqueda and put and end to this, If any sides of the political party that use this war for political gain should get fired they need to work together like us citizens should .

Easy words for a man with right wing leanings. If it were occurring in a Clinton presidency, he would probably singing a different tune.

That aside. I am happy to see that four al-Qaeda perps were killed.

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:01 pm**

nepenthe wrote:Easy words for a man with right wing leanings. If it were occurring in a Clinton presidency, he would probably singing a different tune.

That aside. I am happy to see that four al-Qaeda perps were killed.

You gotta be kidding me nepenthe? You are using this thread right now to blast O'Reilly?

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:03 pm**

Roody wrote:You gotta be kidding me nepenthe? You are using this thread right now to blast O'Reilly?

Did I bring up O'Reilly?

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:04 pm**

nepenthe wrote:Did I bring up O'Reilly?

Seeing as how you quoted mccoffee for what he said about O'Reilly Im pretty sure I cant imagine who else you were talking of unless you were talking about mccoffee.

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:05 pm**

Roody wrote:Seeing as how you quoted mccoffee for what he said about O'Reilly Im pretty sure I cant imagine who else you were talking of unless you were talking about mccoffee.

So I did not bring up O'Reilly then.... thank you.

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:07 pm**

nepenthe wrote:That aside. I am happy to see that four al-Qaeda perps were killed.

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:07 pm**

nepenthe wrote:So I did not bring up O'Reilly then.... thank you.

So you are ridiculing mccoffee? Either way now isnt the time dude.

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:10 pm**

Heck I don't mind bringing up O'lylie at all......anything he has to say is ABOUT partisanship, disguised.......

About nuking...Who would we nuke? It's an ideology not a country......The Muslim faith makes up just about a third of the world faith. I have no idea how many of them are angry enough to join Al Qeada and it's splinter cells but even one is too many........That's what needs addressed by the world....not just us..

My thoughts are, we need to keep our focus on Al Queda.....The Admin need to worry more about a civil war in Saudi Arabia, than all this axis of evil rhetoric, thrown at us to raise the fear level......when the real enemy is is spread out over the whole globe.

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:11 pm**

Start a new thread then guys. I didnt start this thread to turn this thing into a politics thing. I started it because its a sad event.

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:14 pm**

Roody wrote:Start a new thread then guys. I didnt start this thread to turn this thing into a politics thing. I started it because its a sad event.

:???? Looks to me, it got off track way above this......

Agrees with Ghost...we can expect more of it...The shock value is a tool used against us and for them...It gives them a sense of empowerment and a feeling of anger for us. This thread shows that.

Have a good evening.

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:15 pm**

I guess I would disagree DH, but regardless two wrongs dont make a right and now isnt the time.

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:19 pm**

Roody wrote:You gotta be kidding me nepenthe? You are using this thread right now to blast O'Reilly?

Roody wrote:So you are ridiculing mccoffee? Either way now isnt the time dude.

O'Reilly is using this occurance to tell adversaries of Bush to be quiet.... Who is being the opportunist?

I would not pick on mccoffee for his quoting O'Reilly, however since his name was introduced and you chose to concur with it, I felt O'Reilly was fair game.
I feel horrible for what happened to Mr. Johnson and Mr. Berg at the hands of these vile creatures...

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:20 pm**

Roody wrote:Start a new thread then guys. I didnt start this thread to turn this thing into a politics thing. I started it because its a sad event.

A little touchy today huh roody?

I'm glad the SOBS got killed when they dropped off the body.

Something has got to be done to stop those SOBs but what? Nukeing aint gunna do **** but kill innocent people. We should not allow any more VISAS of any kind to any country affiliated with terrorism and all the people here in america that are on any kind of visa should get sent back home. That will piss off enough of the people that want to excape the madness over there and live in luxury to actualy and sinceraly "disaprrove" of any terrorism and possibly revolt against the ill logic teachings of terrorists. Send their ass HOME , get them out of our country.... they hate us unless we have freedom to offer them... **** them.

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:22 pm**

Cant say I disagree with you there nepenthe I just dont believe this is the time to get into that.

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:25 pm**

EvilAngel wrote:A little touchy today huh roody?

Yeah I will grant that EA. Like I said I just dont think now is the time. For those of who I offended my apologies I just dont think it's necessary.

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:27 pm**

Roody wrote:Yeah I will grant that EA. Like I said I just dont think now is the time. For those of who I offended my apologies I just dont think it's necessary.

We still love you...

NOW GET BACK ON TOPIC!

lol

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:28 pm**

I dont know what to say.There just arent words.I saw the part on cnn where his son was in tears,begging,pleading for mercy on his father asking his return,saying his father didnt deserve that.It choked me up.

Hate begats Hate

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:28 pm**

EvilAngel wrote:We still love you...

NOW GET BACK ON TOPIC!

lol

lol thanks man

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:40 pm**

nepenthe wrote:Easy words for a man with right wing leanings. If it were occurring in a Clinton presidency, he would probably singing a different tune.

That aside. I am happy to see that four al-Qaeda perps were killed.

That's a good point with the clinton and your probably right, with the uniting part i think he had a point after 9-11 the country was more holesome and then slowy but surely we kinda drifted that's why i brought it up it made me think

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 10:08 pm**

ok, here's what i think (please excuse my un-"pc"-ness)

this is NOT about some talking head on CNN or MSNBC ... it IS NOT about politics (at least not in the sense of what NEEDS to be done) ...

the threat is al qaeda - a bunch of chicken-$hit extremist terrorist that don't have the ball$ to stand up and fight like MEN - they want to run around kidnapping folks ... killing innocents (women and children included) ... they are pu$$ies - period.

i repeat my previous post - things WILL NOT change until we make them afraid.

problem is, i don't think "bleeding heart politically correct America" is ready to do what needs to be done. And spare me the "that's what separates them from us" speech - al qaeda is using JUST THAT sentiment to do whatever they want to do!

ever wonder what the implications would be if we hunted down some of THEIR families and kidnapped 'em - posted their pix on the web and threatened to cut their heads off?

sorry folks but that will never happen - we are CIVILIZED - and they are "not" ... and I'm also sorry that none of this is going to end until we forget some of the civillity and "holier than thou" stuff and jump right down there and get dirty ... you mark my words - if we stay with our present course of action, this WILL NOT end well ...

I don't know about yall, but I am SICK of seeing regular folks on TV getting their heads cut off ...

btw - if you don't agree with me, that's fine - I don't care - this is what I believe and I AM NOT going to sugar coat it ... you want sugar - go watch Oprah.

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 10:11 pm**

Roody wrote:Cant say I disagree with you there nepenthe I just dont believe this is the time to get into that.

Fair enough...

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 10:17 pm**

Jamie_R wrote:problem is, i don't think "bleeding heart politically correct America" is ready to do what needs to be done. And spare me the "that's what separates them from us" speech - al qaeda is using JUST THAT sentiment to do whatever they want to do!

ever wonder what the implications would be if we hunted down some of THEIR families and kidnapped 'em - posted their pix on the web and threatened to cut their heads off?.

That's right.... It is the bleeding hearts who are to blame.
You could point out the good old days before the 'net and aggressive news journalism when a country could hide a massacre or justify a good butchering. Dresden would never have happened in 2004.

Saudi Arabia is a very odd place.... A country owned by a family with an aggressive clergy (Wahhabist)

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2004 10:33 pm**

hey i'm fed up with the heads getting cut off two you have to options actully more unite to agree let's do what ever it takes to root out alqueda however it's spelled. I think the whole country is fed up but at the same those bleeding hearts have a point if we didn't goto war with iraq that guy porbably wouldn't be in there in the first place. You can't blame anyone state side for this you really can't both have the same objective a peaceful soluation for this cournty and countries abord... Peace could also mean war you can't have peace without war or vice versa...

i say agree to disagree and get thease alqueda b4 they do larger scale damage.

Posted: **Sat Jun 19, 2004 12:50 am**

The best, the very best way to get rid of Al-Queda is to commit this country to creating a non-petroleum based fuel supply. Whether ethanol based or something else. Doesn't have to be fantasy fuel. We CAN do this. We put men on the moon and ended smallpox. We CAN do this.

http://www.wired.com/news/autotech/0,2554,63635,00.html

Regards,
-Bouncer-

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