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I recommend

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 8:06 am
by phatoneusa
The microsoft routers are crap, if you want a xbox compatible router I dont think linksys lists it on their box so check on the xbox website, I use a D-link. their hardware is cheaper and the router works flawlessly.

Re: I recommend

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 8:40 am
by SICMF
Originally posted by phatoneusa
The microsoft routers are crap, if you want a xbox compatible router I dont think linksys lists it on their box so check on the xbox website, I use a D-link. their hardware is cheaper and the router works flawlessly.



Have you used one, or just because Microsoft makes it? The MS routers are actually pretty nice, Also there are settings in the firmware in optimization for the X-Box. My D-link 614+ Just quit working so i ran to Circuit City and snagged up a MS RN700, I love having firewall settings and all the other goods. Very nice in my opinion. BTW, This is the second D-link that took a sh*t on me. Might as well buy Belkin. :)

what i heard.

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 6:25 pm
by phatoneusa
I know people who made the router and they told me its crap, end of story.

Re: what i heard.

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 6:28 pm
by SICMF
Originally posted by phatoneusa
I know people who made the router and they told me its crap, end of story.


LOL. Thats the end of your opinion. :)

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 6:33 pm
by Set
I set up a MS router a few weekends ago Not to bad of a router Don't know about long term but it was a breeze to set up as is most and did great with speedtest and network speeds

But what do i know huh I'm using a belkin router :D

Re: I recommend

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 8:03 pm
by YeOldeStonecat
Originally posted by phatoneusa
The microsoft routers are crap, if you want a xbox compatible router I dont think linksys lists it on their box so check on the xbox website, I use a D-link. their hardware is cheaper and the router works flawlessly.


Defind "X-box compatible " router. NAT is NAT, my wife's kid's x-box has worked fine with all my routers (I change routers like every 6 months "just to play with them").

And Microsofts wireless routers perform pretty well. I've compared them myself in throughput tests against many other wireless when I'm setting them up, playing around. Yeah it's no Sonicwall TZW or Orinoco system, but for a home market router, better than many.

How many different brand routers do you have experience with?

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 8:40 pm
by porkchop
I've only owned one router and this Dlink 604 has been rock solid for 3 years or so... pretty damn cheap

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 8:44 pm
by WolfgangPC
I've only owned one router and this Dlink 604 has been rock solid for 3 years or so... pretty damn cheap
Same here, you can't beat them for the price, and I agree "Rock Solid" :nod:

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 9:15 pm
by Cypher
I like my Nexland even though Symantic bought them out. I think Cat or Philip did the review on them that sparked my interest in one. ;)

XBOX COMPATIBLE

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 10:50 pm
by phatoneusa
What Does Xbox Compatible Mean?
Want to connect to Xbox Live as quickly and painlessly as possible? Look for Xbox Compatible devices and providers.
The Xbox team and Xbox Compatible providers are working together to make sure you select the right service offering and have the information you need to get connected. When you buy a router or integrated router/modem with the Xbox Compatible logo, you can be sure it has been tested extensively on Xbox Live.

The following Linksys routers are Xbox Compatible:

MODEL
BEFSR41 (v3)
BEFW11S4 (v4)


Some of these routers might not work or might need workarounds to work with Xbox Live. To find out more about these Linksys routers, click the model number below.

For instance if you own the v2 like I did people would randomly drop from your hosted games and you will get disconnected from xbox live, EVEN WITH THE WORKAROUND. So anyone who doesnt think xbox compatible means anything if you own a router you need to do either a workaround or had to upgrade the firmware for xbox compatibility and it wasn't fully tested, take my word switch routers out, and see if it makes a difference with your problems.

Re: XBOX COMPATIBLE

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 8:23 am
by YeOldeStonecat
Originally posted by phatoneusa
take my word switch routers out, and see if it makes a difference with your problems.


Dunno, he's been playing it through, oh, lemme see what routers I've used in the past year and a half...Nexland ISB SOHO, Linksys BEFSR81, Linksys BEFSX41, Netopia 3586. I don't think I've had my Netgear running at home for quite some time. I think I can add a Sonicwall to the list...I had one running for a few weeks this spring...didn't hear him complain.

"XBox compatible" to me is just a marketing ploy.

well

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 8:38 am
by phatoneusa
well if your router has xbox compatible upgradibility and you have that dumb attitude fine dont upgrade the firmware and lets see how it runs, maybe then you might say hmm maybe its firmware and not MARKETING, moron.

Re: well

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 9:47 am
by YeOldeStonecat
Originally posted by phatoneusa
well if your router has xbox compatible upgradibility and you have that dumb attitude fine dont upgrade the firmware and lets see how it runs, maybe then you might say hmm maybe its firmware and not MARKETING, moron.


I can see a short stay here for you. Strike 1!

Why are firmware upgrades such as show stopper for you, if needed? How long have you worked on routers for? Or even been in the IT business?

Re: well

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 6:12 pm
by A_old
Originally posted by phatoneusa
well if your router has xbox compatible upgradibility and you have that dumb attitude fine dont upgrade the firmware and lets see how it runs, maybe then you might say hmm maybe its firmware and not MARKETING, moron.


it's obvious you don't know a horse's ass from basic networking. firmware is like a bios, you don't fix it if it isn't broken.

Re: Re: well

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 6:50 pm
by TrevGlas
Originally posted by Amro
it's obvious you don't know a horse's ass from basic networking. firmware is like a bios, you don't fix it if it isn't broken.


ROFL

:rotfl:

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 6:50 pm
by TrevGlas
But firmware updates can contain performance, stability issues as well.

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 7:38 pm
by A_old
Originally posted by TrevGlas
But firmware updates can contain performance, stability issues as well.


in which case the original firmware would be considered broken

Re: well

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 11:13 pm
by mwkirchner
Originally posted by phatoneusa
well if your router has xbox compatible upgradibility and you have that dumb attitude fine dont upgrade the firmware and lets see how it runs, maybe then you might say hmm maybe its firmware and not MARKETING, moron.
Clear to see that this particular person has been around some of the other forums. Guess he might learn the hard way that comments like these are NOT tolerated here.

It is okay to have an opinion here ... but calling somone a MORON is not really necessary.

Kewl your jets and post away. Your opinion is welcomed here ... just keep the comments to yourself.

BTW ... welcome to speedguide. :D

Re: Re: well

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:25 am
by HawaiianGhost
Originally posted by mwkirchner
Clear to see that this particular person has been around some of the other forums. Guess he might learn the hard way that comments like these are NOT tolerated here.

It is okay to have an opinion here ... but calling somone a MORON is not really necessary.

Yeah, especially a Mod of SG forums...Not the brightest idea to do.
YOSC has been around longer than you may think bud and he knows what he's talkin' about ;)

-HG