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Battleship
Ummm.. hey Matt, you stole nightowls signature, which is also pretty much the same signature pic I have.
I was the first one to have the I AM CANADIAN sig so I dont wanna be rude but do you guys think you can get new sigs... hehe, it just loks stupid with like 3 guys having the same sig, know what I mean?
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I was the first one to have the I AM CANADIAN sig so I dont wanna be rude but do you guys think you can get new sigs... hehe, it just loks stupid with like 3 guys having the same sig, know what I mean?
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nightowl
I think everybody here that is Canadian should have a Canadian sig!!!!<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Battleship:
Ummm.. hey Matt, you stole nightowls signature, which is also pretty much the same signature pic I have.
I was the first one to have the I AM CANADIAN sig so I dont wanna be rude but do you guys think you can get new sigs... hehe, it just loks stupid with like 3 guys having the same sig, know what I mean?
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oh and BTW if you live or go to Quebec the legal drinking age is 18.........and they sell beer and liquor in the grocery stores, unlike Ontario that has provincially owned beer and liquor stores, which is the only places where you can buy liquor legally
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by TonyT:
Canada or America what?
tip - get to know some of the guys here before ya start pushin the "which country is best" button. There's quite a few Canuks here.)
TonyT you crack me up!
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minir
hi kewlmatt13, nice to meet you
my advice to you young man, don't give old Uncle Orland any trouble, or
he'll beat the crap out of you.
he was one tough Sum Bitch. he didn't fight
too much, because he didn't have to. one of the best scrappers of his day.
man, a treat to watch go.
i loved to watch him play.
say thanks to him from a fan.
take care
minir
my advice to you young man, don't give old Uncle Orland any trouble, or
he'll beat the crap out of you.
he was one tough Sum Bitch. he didn't fighttoo much, because he didn't have to. one of the best scrappers of his day.
man, a treat to watch go.
i loved to watch him play.
say thanks to him from a fan.
take care
minir
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waferdog
I live in Northern Minnesota, in close proximity to Canadia, and as such I've had deal with things Canadian. The Canadian gov't is extremely horrible in the way it isssues and implements regualtions in their country. The steps and loopholes people have to go through to get anything done in that country are amazing. Nothing is simple there, as the bureacracy is extremely unhelpful, not to mention the province governments sometimes issuing regualtions that run counter to Ottawa's laws. And let us not forget the PST and GST (getting screwed tax). And how about Thunder Bay? That town literally does stink. THe paper plant there has the town smelling like an outhouse 24/7. Canada does have one redeeming item though: Hockey tradition. Tons of it.
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sitosterol
Failed economy???? Where do you get your facts from? I've heard that while the American economy has started ta cool, ours has gotten hotter and this trend my continue for some time. Traditionally if America sneazed we'd catch a cold but the times be changin. The projections are that this lil' recession wont have much affect on us (Canadians). So why dont you get ur facts straight eh?
Gun control is why we dont have murder after murder after murder after murder. Our government has enough sense ta protect us from ourselves. Thanx Mr Prime Minister.
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Gun control is why we dont have murder after murder after murder after murder. Our government has enough sense ta protect us from ourselves. Thanx Mr Prime Minister.
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sitosterol
I could break everything in my body and have it fixed for free. Try that on ur side.<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by waferdog:
I live in Northern Minnesota, in close proximity to Canadia, and as such I've had deal with things Canadian. The Canadian gov't is extremely horrible in the way it isssues and implements regualtions in their country. The steps and loopholes people have to go through to get anything done in that country are amazing. Nothing is simple there, as the bureacracy is extremely unhelpful, not to mention the province governments sometimes issuing regualtions that run counter to Ottawa's laws. And let us not forget the PST and GST (getting screwed tax).</font>
Could somebody plz lock this thread, the ignorance is pissin me off
. Many people here arent old enough ta understand wtf they are saying. I like America and the rest of the world too, so all you young punks shut the fvck up !!!!! ------------------
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waferdog
>I could break everything in my body and have it fixed for free. Try that on ur side.
Actually, in Minnesota and WIsconsin, they do have such programs. My post was all facts, but I was not making a statement that one country was better than the other. They both have wondeful qualities, and they both have their faults. For example, those making the argument that Canada has less crime than the US. That is true, on the whole. I guarantee you, though, that crime in my neck of the woods is much lower than in many cities in Canada. Numbers do not tell the whole story.
Actually, in Minnesota and WIsconsin, they do have such programs. My post was all facts, but I was not making a statement that one country was better than the other. They both have wondeful qualities, and they both have their faults. For example, those making the argument that Canada has less crime than the US. That is true, on the whole. I guarantee you, though, that crime in my neck of the woods is much lower than in many cities in Canada. Numbers do not tell the whole story.
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mouse
There is NO need for people to start getting mad... We all live in different country's and fighting over which one is better is REALLY STUPID! I live in America and like it but I have also met quite a few people from canada on this board and have enjoyed learning thing's about them and there country. I would love to go to canada. Like people, there are good thing's and bad thing's on both side's. In meeting people from canada on this board all that I can say is "if all the people in canada are like Minir then I would be happy to live there"
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64bit
Wow I really hope your joking. Maybe living with socailism your whole life makes thinking like that seem rational but.. but.. but.. I'm speechless<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by sitosterol:
Our government has enough sense ta protect us from ourselves. Thanx Mr Prime Minister.
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I thought this was a good idea until I couldn't think of anything witty.
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sitosterol
64 bit, I understand fully about what ur saying, and thats the right ta have a firearm, but our country has no use for guns really. I feel Canada is a role model in many ways that we dont have much of an army and dont need 1. I'm not saying the world doesnt need enforcement,it does very much, but not from us. If any country messes with us we've always got allies, even if the USA (god forbid) were to try and invade, do ya really think no other countries would get involved? Think again. Canada's people are composed of the world, which is what makes us unique. I'm pro peace luv and grooviness. Look at the murder rate in Britain and then look at ur's. It's the guns that are doin the killing. Some teen that hasnt fully developed a mentallity and doesnt realize the impact has a higher tendancy to shoot someone and think they'll get away with it. You dont get any blood on ur hands with a gun.
I'll probably recieve multiple flames for this.
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mouse
sitosterol I tend to agree with you on the idea of gun's and Canada does very well with it's choice on Defence, However I personally would be a little afraid to live in a country that had so little defence of attack other then the dependancy of allies. I am sure that you are right, if anyone were to attack Canada their allies would jump right in but I sleep a little better knowing that if there were ever an attack here in the states that it would be dealt with Quickly and would be the best interest of my country. I would think that having someone else step in and help fight off the enemy leave's a vulnerability that I would not be Comfortable with in my government. No offence meant to anyone, this is just my view.
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sitosterol
But do you sleep well at night knowing some crackhead has a 9mm and aint afraid ta use it?
I agree totally with ur views on the political scene. It is a bit scary knowing that ur countries secret weapon is a slingshot , but thats what the new world should look like. Maybe someday.
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I agree totally with ur views on the political scene. It is a bit scary knowing that ur countries secret weapon is a slingshot
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ssjDoh
hehe, you guys have to protect us. If Canada gets taked over, USA is surrounded... hehe<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by mouse:
sitosterol I tend to agree with you on the idea of gun's and Canada does very well with it's choice on Defence, However I personally would be a little afraid to live in a country that had so little defence of attack other then the dependancy of allies. I am sure that you are right, if anyone were to attack Canada their allies would jump right in but I sleep a little better knowing that if there were ever an attack here in the states that it would be dealt with Quickly and would be the best interest of my country. I would think that having someone else step in and help fight off the enemy leave's a vulnerability that I would not be Comfortable with in my government. No offence meant to anyone, this is just my view.
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waferdog
Seriously siterostel, you are starting to sound a little paranoid. 99.9% of guns in the US are used for legal purposes. If those guns were taken away, criminals will still commit crimes. They are doing it not because they have a gun, but because they want something. The gun is just something convenient to use. Take away the gun, and people will still get hurt. Also, it is a proven fact that there is much less crime in areas that have a lot of guns. Areas that ban guns (Chicago for example), on the other hand, tend to have skyrocketing crime rates. If a society chooses to not have guns, that is their choice. Personally, I believe that guns serve a purpose in society (such as hunting) and as such have a place in society.
People have different opinions, and therefore debates like this, on different subjects. That is true beauty of countries like Canada and USA. We can think differently. Getting mad at someone because he expresses an opinion different than yours is infantile. If you don't like an opinion, you have the freedom to not listen to it or read it.
People have different opinions, and therefore debates like this, on different subjects. That is true beauty of countries like Canada and USA. We can think differently. Getting mad at someone because he expresses an opinion different than yours is infantile. If you don't like an opinion, you have the freedom to not listen to it or read it.
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mouse
Well no of coarse not, BUT I do have the choice of owning a gun (which I do not). There somehow seems to be a little trade off, I live in a country that has a very stong defence but the people kill eachother everyday with gun's. I personally think that it should be our right as citizens to own a gun but I also believe that people who take a life be responsible for their action's. If someone kill's, then they give up their right to life. It is because of our court system not dealing with these people that other's feel that you can get away with murder. Parent's also ,must take responsibility for owning a gun, if their kid kill's themselve or someone else the parent should be held accountable even if was an accident. My youngest daughter was recently invited to her first Slumber Party and I felt as a parent that I had the right to know if there were any gun's in that house, when I called the mother and asked she got so p*ssed that she hung up on me. Point is we all have a responsibility in this issue weather we choose to own a gun or not. If people had to take more responsiblity for their gun's and the court's dealt with the offender's in a harsher way, I don't think that to many people would actually own gun's.<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by sitosterol:
But do you sleep well at night knowing some crackhead has a 9mm and aint afraid ta use it?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by striderf1:
about guns: since england outlawed the personal use of guns for people a few years ago, crime has DOUBLED. the rules only apply to those who follow them, and criminals aren't going by the law anyway, so they still use guns, its just that now people can't shoot back.</font>
AHAHAHAHAhahahaah
There's so much wrong with that statement..
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sitosterol
Once again I agree with you mouse, but "heat" moments produce many murders as well, where a person is so upset they do the stupid thing and shoot somebody, a "heat" moment involves spontaneous reaction (just to make myself clear) and a gun is a sure way to accomplish what hate a person may feel. They often deeply regret what they've done but it's done.
Think about the vast array of personal conflicts going on and how many people that dont know how ta deal with it?
The court system has to acknowledge this somehow, and will give things like manslaughter to a cold blooded killer.
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Think about the vast array of personal conflicts going on and how many people that dont know how ta deal with it?
The court system has to acknowledge this somehow, and will give things like manslaughter to a cold blooded killer.
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Cpt-Sullen
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by sitosterol:
I could break everything in my body and have it fixed for free. Try that on ur side.
Boy thats something to be proud of. The government taking care of you, what happened to taking care of yourself? (the govt dosen't give me a thing.) The last thing we in the US need to be like is canada!
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kewlmatt13
_____________________________________________<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by minir:
hi kewlmatt13, nice to meet you
my advice to you young man, don't give old Uncle Orland any trouble, or
he'll beat the crap out of you.
too much, because he didn't have to. one of the best scrappers of his day.
man, a treat to watch go.
i loved to watch him play.
say thanks to him from a fan.
take care
minir</font>
Thanks Minir,
U used to watch him go play? Thats really cool. I will say hi to him the next time i see him. I know not to mess with him...like u said he is a strong sob!
It was nice talking to u
HAve a good day...Heh.
Matt
CANADA...all the way babe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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minir
good day Ladies & gentlemen
like most things, it is sometimes hard to express a point of view, on something so different as the
culture & life syles of 2 countries & their peoples, in a short brief.
may i start off by saying, Canada is not socialist.
the will of the people through the voting booths, dictated that we preferred the country to offer all of
it's citizens equal opportunity for medical coverage. rich & poor have the advantage of the same care.
when someone states at no cost , i shudder. it comes at a tremendous cost, through taxes. true we do
not have to lay out any cash at the clinic, or hospital, that however is far from free.
it has it's pro's & cons, but the vast majority of Canadians wish this to be so. we like all countries have
area's of high unemployment, due to location, weather, etc. the feeling was and is, no one should have to
suffer due to economic hardship.
believe me if the politicians had their way this would not be so. it is difficult to compete in the world
market at times, when you are saddled with these built in costs. so they would very much like to rid us of
free , hahaha, medical coverage. most business men feel the same, (who can blame them) however the
people of Canada are unwilling to give up this well entrenched system.
every year they ( the government) play more games with our medical coverage, by cutting back on
transfers etc, to the provinces.
one day i am afraid it will disappear.
as to our Army. well it is sufficient to do what needs doing, in regards to peace time activities. we also
always back up our allies, as well documented in the world wars.
we are a large country in area, but small in population. the USA is approx. 260 million people, we are
but 25 million, or about 10%. yet we must endure the costs of maintaining highways, communications
and all those things goverment must support. this also in a country that overall has a much harsher
climate that of the USA. hell our snow removal costs alone would support most nations.
like most countries we have a fairly strong civil defence, as a first call basis.
however we have long held the view of the peace keeper. you will find Canada a well known and
respected force of Peace Keepers throughout the troubled spots of the world.
as far as our countries safety, it is well protected in the north by Canadian and American Troops.
the waters of the north, east and west are patrolled by both American and Canadian Subs. and ships of
war, as well as the Air Forces of both countries.
do not forget that we maintain the longest unguarded border in the world, between our 2 countries.
imagine if you will, how this is viewed by the rest of the world. two vast area's, populated by two
different cultures, who have worked things through over time, to allow each to coexist without fear or
rancor or threat, one from the other. quite amazing, is it not.
something both countries should, and can take great comfort and pride in, i believe.
you watch our back and we watch yours.
we are also the two largest trading partners as well.
we differ in many ways, but that is something to rejoice not belittle.
our government in many ways, due to our history, is tied to English Law. we share many things with
England, another strong allie of both our countries.
these are bonds forged in blood, and bravery on all sides. with great cost, in the loss of many brave men
and women, of all 3 countries, during times so turbulent and unforgiving, that we should all pray, that
the mutual appreciation and respect of our countries for one another never change.
as to gun's and gun control. it is a hot topic, with valid point's on both sides.
we as Canadians due to our history, (British) due not challenge authority in quite the same way you our
American friends do.
we are not as organized, in opposing the rulings of our government, although things are changing.
for myself, i am not in favour of gun control, other than handguns and automatic weapons, AK 's for
example. many people here are not as well, and there will be a showdown here over this new law, that
will cause a re thinking of government authoriy, before it is over.
it may well be violent, as many will and are, refusing to comply with the new gun laws,
these things in total do not make us a lesser, nor a better nation than yours. nor does your way of
viewing things, challenge our way of life either.
it is again two different peoples, who share and enjoin in many of the same views, and ideals of one
other, doing things in a different manner.
to me this is as it should be.
but in the same instance, when push comes to shove, by an aggressor nation, we know without fail that
we can rely on one another for total support. no matter the cost.
what a Proud Heritage we enjoy together.
may it last forever.
peace
regards minir
like most things, it is sometimes hard to express a point of view, on something so different as the
culture & life syles of 2 countries & their peoples, in a short brief.
may i start off by saying, Canada is not socialist.
the will of the people through the voting booths, dictated that we preferred the country to offer all of
it's citizens equal opportunity for medical coverage. rich & poor have the advantage of the same care.
when someone states at no cost , i shudder. it comes at a tremendous cost, through taxes. true we do
not have to lay out any cash at the clinic, or hospital, that however is far from free.
it has it's pro's & cons, but the vast majority of Canadians wish this to be so. we like all countries have
area's of high unemployment, due to location, weather, etc. the feeling was and is, no one should have to
suffer due to economic hardship.
believe me if the politicians had their way this would not be so. it is difficult to compete in the world
market at times, when you are saddled with these built in costs. so they would very much like to rid us of
free , hahaha, medical coverage. most business men feel the same, (who can blame them) however the
people of Canada are unwilling to give up this well entrenched system.
every year they ( the government) play more games with our medical coverage, by cutting back on
transfers etc, to the provinces.
one day i am afraid it will disappear.
as to our Army. well it is sufficient to do what needs doing, in regards to peace time activities. we also
always back up our allies, as well documented in the world wars.
we are a large country in area, but small in population. the USA is approx. 260 million people, we are
but 25 million, or about 10%. yet we must endure the costs of maintaining highways, communications
and all those things goverment must support. this also in a country that overall has a much harsher
climate that of the USA. hell our snow removal costs alone would support most nations.
like most countries we have a fairly strong civil defence, as a first call basis.
however we have long held the view of the peace keeper. you will find Canada a well known and
respected force of Peace Keepers throughout the troubled spots of the world.
as far as our countries safety, it is well protected in the north by Canadian and American Troops.
the waters of the north, east and west are patrolled by both American and Canadian Subs. and ships of
war, as well as the Air Forces of both countries.
do not forget that we maintain the longest unguarded border in the world, between our 2 countries.
imagine if you will, how this is viewed by the rest of the world. two vast area's, populated by two
different cultures, who have worked things through over time, to allow each to coexist without fear or
rancor or threat, one from the other. quite amazing, is it not.
something both countries should, and can take great comfort and pride in, i believe.
you watch our back and we watch yours.
we are also the two largest trading partners as well.
we differ in many ways, but that is something to rejoice not belittle.
our government in many ways, due to our history, is tied to English Law. we share many things with
England, another strong allie of both our countries.
these are bonds forged in blood, and bravery on all sides. with great cost, in the loss of many brave men
and women, of all 3 countries, during times so turbulent and unforgiving, that we should all pray, that
the mutual appreciation and respect of our countries for one another never change.
as to gun's and gun control. it is a hot topic, with valid point's on both sides.
we as Canadians due to our history, (British) due not challenge authority in quite the same way you our
American friends do.
we are not as organized, in opposing the rulings of our government, although things are changing.
for myself, i am not in favour of gun control, other than handguns and automatic weapons, AK 's for
example. many people here are not as well, and there will be a showdown here over this new law, that
will cause a re thinking of government authoriy, before it is over.
it may well be violent, as many will and are, refusing to comply with the new gun laws,
these things in total do not make us a lesser, nor a better nation than yours. nor does your way of
viewing things, challenge our way of life either.
it is again two different peoples, who share and enjoin in many of the same views, and ideals of one
other, doing things in a different manner.
to me this is as it should be.
but in the same instance, when push comes to shove, by an aggressor nation, we know without fail that
we can rely on one another for total support. no matter the cost.
what a Proud Heritage we enjoy together.
may it last forever.
peace
regards minir