Another Stimulus Package?

[Sava700]

Ever not liked your job and just quit and went another?

yeah thats it... don't like it leave. Don't like it don't eat it. Don't like it don't use it. Very simple concept.

Mexico then?

[Gixxer]

I am white. We are not a minority.

not yet anyway

[Gixxer]

Awesome, I really want to buy another AR15 before Obama gets in office! They have already gone up in price around here by 200 bucks. Dont' want to know what will happen in November if he gets elected.

That and some more 'evil' 30 round magazines would really make my holidays!

nobody complaining about this spam? huh. must be an acquaintance.

[David]

Hell yeah! I could use the extra cash for Xmas



http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/ ... ryHeadline

Printing more money to buy Asian made toys....

[Scott]

... and let the rest of us enjoy it as it is.

Yes, please, let us continue to enjoy them wasting our tax money as they have been doing.

[RoscoPColtrane]

I am white. We are not a minority.


Doesn't matter because I know that while SENATOR Obama has been in office, you have done ZERO, ZILCH, SQUAT, when it comes to whining about your guns and ammo.

So now that the guy may become President, all of a sudden you are in an uproar??????????????????????????????? Nevermind that he's already a SENATOR.

I have been worried about the Govt's lack of respect for the 2A for a long time. Yes even before every Jack and Jane knew who Obama was. Remember, that was like 18 months ago!

[RoscoPColtrane]

BTW....why would you need MORE guns and ammo once Obama gets in office? Are you planning a violent overthrow of our newly elected administration? That would make you a domestic terrorist.

Maybe the ATF does need to be informed of your intentions.

When did i mention a violent overthrow of any administration?

I need more guns and ammo because it is my right. Shooting happens to be a hobby of mine. I find it relaxing to shoot, for many of hte same reasons people golf i would imagine. Focas, breathing control, ect. It is a GREAT way to challenge yourself.

Not to mention firearms and ammo seem to be a decent investment right now. My AR15 has gone up in value almost 50% since when i purchased it. Not too many other things can claim that these days. Buy them now or not be able to afford them later....

Not that i owe you or anybody an explaination of my collection.

[Brk]

This isn't why we want to bear arms... . maybe for you and your bomb shelter and tin foil collection but you are wayyy off base! Your so anti-Government that I don't know what to say.... you just need to stop driving on roads cause Gov helps manage them, stop purchasing anything cause your paying them taxes...hell may as well stop breathing cause I'm sure our awful Government had something to do with our air quality bad or good.

I really don't know what to say but sorry!!! I'll tell you SORRY for our Government for making you so hateful on it. Move to Canada if you don't like it so much and let the rest of us enjoy it as it is.

Actually, it's EXACTLY why we need to keep and bear arms; the government is to protect us from enemies without, and the citizenry is to defend itself from an oppressive government.

And the "move if you don't like it" is such a tired response devoid of substance. It's similar to the ol' refrain, "You can't complain if you don't vote" in that it serves as an easy way out of any real discussion of the true problems plaguing America.

[Izzo]

This isn't why we want to bear arms... . maybe for you and your bomb shelter and tin foil collection but you are wayyy off base! Your so anti-Government that I don't know what to say.... you just need to stop driving on roads cause Gov helps manage them, stop purchasing anything cause your paying them taxes...hell may as well stop breathing cause I'm sure our awful Government had something to do with our air quality bad or good.

I really don't know what to say but sorry!!! I'll tell you SORRY for our Government for making you so hateful on it. Move to Canada if you don't like it so much and let the rest of us enjoy it as it is.

Why do we want to bear arms? Don't let the Constitution stand in the way in answering this.

[Sava700]

Why do we want to bear arms? Don't let the Constitution stand in the way in answering this.

The answer to your question won't make you shut up..your questions only serves to be bait so go fish in another thread.

[Paft]

I need more guns and ammo because it is my right. Shooting happens to be a hobby of mine. I find it relaxing to shoot, for many of hte same reasons people golf i would imagine. Focas, breathing control, ect. It is a GREAT way to challenge yourself.

Not to mention firearms and ammo seem to be a decent investment right now. My AR15 has gone up in value almost 50% since when i purchased it. Not too many other things can claim that these days. Buy them now or not be able to afford them later....

Not that i owe you or anybody an explaination of my collection.

...And you need an automatic weapon to do your shooting with, why? Why not try a Walther P-88 Compact, or a Sig P220? Or hell, any single-shot or semi-auto rifle? What, exactly, do you need an automatic weapon for?

I fully agree with the Second Amendment, but even I know there needs to be some restrictions on it. And there's no reason that anyone, ever, needs an automatic weapon.

[YeOldeStonecat]

...And you need an automatic weapon to do your shooting with, why? Why not try a Walther P-88 Compact, or a Sig P220? Or hell, any single-shot or semi-auto rifle? What, exactly, do you need an automatic weapon for?

I fully agree with the Second Amendment, but even I know there needs to be some restrictions on it. And there's no reason that anyone, ever, needs an automatic weapon.

Shooting an automatic can put a grin on your face bigger than rolling your right hand on your bike can do. It's quite a feeling.

AR15 is not automatic, it's the semi-automatic version of the M16.

[Izzo]

The answer to your question won't make you shut up..your questions only serves to be bait so go fish in another thread.

Just answer the question. Why is it written in the Constitution that we have the RTBA?

[YARDofSTUF]

This isn't why we want to bear arms... . maybe for you and your bomb shelter and tin foil collection but you are wayyy off base! Your so anti-Government that I don't know what to say.... you just need to stop driving on roads cause Gov helps manage them, stop purchasing anything cause your paying them taxes...hell may as well stop breathing cause I'm sure our awful Government had something to do with our air quality bad or good.

I really don't know what to say but sorry!!! I'll tell you SORRY for our Government for making you so hateful on it. Move to Canada if you don't like it so much and let the rest of us enjoy it as it is.

It is one of the reasons we have the right to bear arms. Its a way to keep our government in check.

[Paft]

Shooting an automatic can put a grin on your face bigger than rolling your right hand on your bike can do. It's quite a feeling.

I believe it... shooting any gun puts a huge grin on my face.

AR15 is not automatic, it's the semi-automatic version of the M16.

My mistake. For some reason, I thought the AR15 had a semi-auto cousin, not that it was the semi-auto cousin. I should look into how much they cost around here, then!

[JawZ]

When did i mention a violent overthrow of any administration?

I need more guns and ammo because it is my right. Shooting happens to be a hobby of mine. I find it relaxing to shoot, for many of hte same reasons people golf i would imagine. Focas, breathing control, ect. It is a GREAT way to challenge yourself.

Not to mention firearms and ammo seem to be a decent investment right now. My AR15 has gone up in value almost 50% since when i purchased it. Not too many other things can claim that these days. Buy them now or not be able to afford them later....

Not that i owe you or anybody an explaination of my collection.

I don't need reasons....I can outshoot you any day of the week on any type of weapon system or platform.


As for you and your anti-Obama rhetoric....is it a coincidence that you wish to stockpile guns and ammo in relation to the upcoming election?

What are you preparing for? Why are you not prepared already? You HAVE lost more rights as a citizen under the current administration yet you didn't feel compelled to stockpile then???????????????????????????

[Sava700]

Just answer the question. Why is it written in the Constitution that we have the RTBA?

Find out for yourself.. I'm not taking your troll bait buddy.

You've not really said nothing else in this thread so why start now..

[YeOldeStonecat]

My mistake. For some reason, I thought the AR15 had a semi-auto cousin, not that it was the semi-auto cousin. I should look into how much they cost around here, then!

There's every kids first carbine..the AR-22!
Ruger 10/22 with carbine kit.

We had one of those back in junior high years or around there..modded into full auto. Squirtin out .22 rounds from the big banana clip full auto was a hoot. Jammed a bit though...eh...home mods for ya!

[YeOldeStonecat]

I

What's the bike in your avatar again? I keep thinking Rebel when I see it.

[Gixxer]

I don't need reasons....I can outshoot you any day of the week on any type of weapon system or platform.


As for you and your anti-Obama rhetoric....is it a coincidence that you wish to stockpile guns and ammo in relation to the upcoming election?

What are you preparing for? Why are you not prepared already? You HAVE lost more rights as a citizen under the current administration yet you didn't feel compelled to stockpile then???????????????????????????

that's a bold statement. what are your credentials?

[Izzo]

Find out for yourself.. I'm not taking your troll bait buddy.

You've not really said nothing else in this thread so why start now..

Just answer it.

[JawZ]

that's a bold statement. what are your credentials?

Let me repeat this again....ANY weapon system. That means MK-19 to 9mm, and anything in between. Hell, I could fit your ass with a nice suicide vest.


As for my credentials.....I'm an active duty combat instructor. My boss is a two star.


Any further questions you can pm me since you seem to be so good at it. Better yet, why not leave me a little profile message?

[Gixxer]

Let me repeat this again....ANY weapon system. That means MK-19 to 9mm, and anything in between. Hell, I could fit your ass with a nice suicide vest.

As for my credentials.....I'm an active duty combat instructor. My boss is a two star.

Any further questions you can pm me since you seem to be so good at it. Better yet, why not leave me a little profile message?

suicide vest ... you are not man enough

combat instructor ... Daisy BB guns and nerf do not count.

i should pm you because i am an active duty eleventy star pm'er

i ask one simple question and you go all RAMBO and threaten to kill me. what is with all the hostilities?

[JawZ]

Daisy BB guns do not count.

That would be a true statement. But since I do not engage in playing GI Joe as you obviously do, I actually train and instruct in the use of real weaponry.

[downhill]

Back to topic...

[JawZ]

suicide vest ... you are not man enough

combat instructor ... Daisy BB guns and nerf do not count.

i should pm you because i am an active duty eleventy star pm'er

i ask one simple question and you go all RAMBO and threaten to kill me. what is with all the hostilities?

I never said I would bring harm to you....although I do think that you should bring harm to yourself. You have proven to be a cancer to this forum. Please go away.

This is what happens when people like you do not have FACTS to back up their assumptions.

[Gixxer]

I never said I would bring harm to you....although I do think that you should bring harm to yourself. You have proven to be a cancer to this forum. Please go away.

This is what happens when people like you do not have FACTS to back up their assumptions.

does this mean we are not friends anymore general [email="bad@$$"]bad@$$[/email]?

[JawZ]

does this mean we are not friends anymore general [email="bad@$$"]bad@$$[/email]?

I don't want to be the first and only person to come onto your profile and admit to being your friend....sorry.


What size vest do you need? I don't know if I have mouth breather sizes. Do you have extra limbs because I don't have any vests with more than two arm openings.

[Gixxer]

I don't want to the the first and only person to come onto your profile and admit to being your friend....sorry.


What size vest do you need? I don't know if I have mouth breather sizes. Do you have extra limbs because I don't have any vests with more than two arm openings.

uh oh, neg reps on the way!

pssst .... hooked on phonics ...

[David]

And what points are being made here, gentlemen?

[Gixxer]

And what points are being made here, gentlemen?

i think that he is rambo and i need to blow myself up.

[JawZ]

And what points are being made here, gentlemen?

Gixxer is busy making an ass out of herself, please allow it to continue.

[Gixxer]

The final pre-Election Day push by Democrats in Congress will be to try to pass a $50 billion economic stimulus program.
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Economic stimulus checks are prepared for printing at the Philadelphia Financial Center May 8, 2008 in Philadelphia, Penn.



The proposal, details of which are in the works, would cost about one-third as much as February's $168 billion stimulus package. Unlike the earlier stimulus package, the new proposal is not expected to have tax rebates as its centerpiece.
Concern over the growing budget deficit could galvanize Republican opposition to a second stimulus package, which the White House isn't supporting. Yesterday, the Congressional Budget Office predicted a $407 billion deficit for this fiscal year and a record deficit of $438 billion for the fiscal year beginning next month.
Yet, national concern over job loss and the housing slump could edge out concern over government spending, economists say.
"Deficit hawks are a kind of seasonal bird," an economist at the Heritage Foundation, James Foster, said.
Economists and congressional aides said proposals under consideration for a new stimulus plan include increasing unemployment benefits; expanding both food stamps and a heating subsidy for the poor; increasing federal spending on Medicaid, and funding highway and school construction.
Democrats would have liked to have seen some of these items in the February stimulus package. That plan had two parts: a tax rebate for individuals and a tax deduction on major purchases by businesses.
The new stimulus should focus on both jobs and "helping the states through these tough times so they don't make budget cuts," Rep. Rahm Emanuel, a Democrat of Illinois, told reporters in a conference call.
The House majority leader, Rep. Steny Hoyer of Maryland, said he did not expect the proposed second stimulus to include rebates, Congressional Quarterly reported. In the past, Senator Obama has proposed a $1,000 rebate to families that would be paid for by taxing oil companies.
"I would be surprised to see a package that would be less than, you know, $50 billion to $75 billion," Senator Schumer said, according to an Associated Press report.
A former treasury secretary, Lawrence Summers, endorsed the idea of a second stimulus plan yesterday in testimony to the House Budget Committee.
"I believe the balance of risks suggest a compelling case for a significant fiscal stimulus program that increases the deficit in the short run," Mr. Summers, who has given advice to the presidential campaign of Mr. Obama, said, according to the Wall Street Journal.
Neither Mr. Obama, the Democratic nominee for president, nor Senator McCain, the Republican nominee, issued statements yesterday addressing the proposals. Neither campaign responded to calls for comment.
Lately, Mr. Obama has sought to portray Mr. McCain as oblivious to the hard times experienced by many Americans.
At a press briefing, a White House spokeswoman, Dana Perino, said the administration wasn't working on another stimulus package, according to a transcript. She chalked up part of this year's deficit to the earlier stimulus package.
One Republican whom Democrats will be courting for support is Rep. Peter King of Long Island, who has sought to get the federal government to pay more of states' Medicaid bills. That proposal could be a major part of any deal. Under different plans being discussed, one congressional aide said, the federal government would pay an extra 3% or 4% of the costs of Medicaid.
A stimulus package is intended to provide a short-term boost to the economy through job creation or increased spending. Economists are debating whether the proposals by the Democrats are the best policies to accomplish those ends.
"This is stuff they want to do politically," a labor policy expert at the Heritage Foundation, James Sherk, said of some of the spending proposals likely to be included in a Democratic proposal. "But 'stimulus' sounds better than saying, 'Let's spend $80 billion.'"
In an interview, Mr. Sherk singled out for criticism the proposal to lengthen eligibility for unemployment, which he said would encourage some people to stay out of work.
This summer, Congress extended the length of unemployment benefits to nearly 10 months from less than seven months. That is set to expire by June, but a new stimulus package could extend the deadline further.

[David]

i think that he is rambo and i need to blow myself up.

Actually, he is Rambo.

[Gixxer]

Gixxer is busy making an ass out of herself, please allow it to continue.

did you think of that all by yourself

[David]

Gixxer is busy making an ass out of herself, please allow it to continue.

Does he need your help? J/K Gixxer....

Trying to beat an opinion into someone can only serve to cause hard feelings.

[Gixxer]

Actually, he is Rambo.

[JawZ]

Does he need your help?

No she doesn't. Sorry. I will not aid her in her pursuit of forum nirvana.


Color me gone.

[David]

No she doesn't. Sorry. I will not aid her in her pursuit of forum nirvana.


Color me gone.

Carrot versus a stick....

[Gixxer]

No she doesn't. Sorry. I will not aid her in her pursuit of forum nirvana.


Color me gone.

don't quit your day job, because a comedian you are not. is that the best you got?