Products Containing Aspartame!

Shinobi · Post by **Shinobi** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:33 pm

Augustus wrote:I am curious of statistics

how many have died from aspartame poisoning and how many from obesity/diabetes/heart problems?

I take my chances with aspartame anyday..LOL

I agree.. My Grandmother had diabetes, and back then "Sweet & Low" (aspartame) was the main sugar sub' on the market. She used that stuff " a lot" and I didn't see any "side-effects"..

I have diabetes, and I drink more Splenda then Sweet & Low or Equal, but I too think that too much of anything can kill ya in the long haul.

Now where is my Splenda Coffee..

Shinobi

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:51 pm

Shinobi wrote:I agree.. My Grandmother had diabetes, and back then "Sweet & Low" (aspartame) was the main sugar sub' on the market. She used that stuff " a lot" and I didn't see any "side-effects"..

I have diabetes, and I drink more Splenda then Sweet & Low or Equal, but I too think that too much of anything can kill ya in the long haul.

Now where is my Splenda Coffee..
Shinobi

Yeah i think everyone is different, what works for one wont work for other and vice versa...abd like you said all in moderation.

David · Post by **David** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:24 pm

yo_yo_girl wrote:you call it junk science, and that's ok. I call it truth. Methanol is wood alcohol.(it fries your brain!)
You are thinking of methane gas.? or blowing it?

Please reread my posts in this thread.

Rainbow · Post by **Rainbow** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:11 pm

I dunno I'm still in good health and I've been drinking a MINIMUM of an 8 pack of Diet Coke per day for the last...hmm 10 years anyway? And honestly thats NO exaggeration, my wife complains but I told her hey would you rather it be Beer

David · Post by **David** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:12 pm

Rainbow wrote:I dunno I'm still in good health and I've been drinking a MINIMUM of an 8 pack of Diet Coke per day for the last...hmm 10 years anyway? And honestly thats NO exaggeration, my wife complains but I told her hey would you rather it be Beer

Makes you wonder what snopes has to say....

BrandonB · Post by **BrandonB** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 1:16 am

Hell_Yes wrote:Makes you wonder what snopes has to say....

http://www.snopes.com/toxins/aspartame.asp

yo_yo_girl · Post by **yo_yo_girl** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 1:24 pm

Is snopes the hand Bible of all information on the net, or life? Ever wonder who controls snopes.com..etc. The fact that anything artificial, not natural, can be harmful to the body-- is basic common sense. I'll trust my own knowledge and not depend on a info/disinfo site run by who knows?

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 1:35 pm

yo_yo_girl wrote:Is snopes the hand Bible of all information on the net, or life? Ever wonder who controls snopes.com..etc. The fact that anything artificial, not natural, can be harmful to the body-- is basic common sense. I'll trust my own knowledge and not depend on a info/disinfo site run by who knows?

Snopes is not saying that its safe just that those claims are not justified. Its bad stuff, i'm sure of that, but its hard to say what it really causes.

morbidpete · Post by **morbidpete** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 1:48 pm

i eat equal straight out of the packet. i love that stuff, and my ice coffe i get it medium ice 8 creams 6 equal!!! and im not even a diabetic lol

mmione · Post by **mmione** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 2:48 pm

Stevioside “seems to affect the male reproductive organ system,” European scientists concluded last year. When male rats were fed high doses of stevioside for 22 months, sperm production was reduced, the weight of seminal vesicles (which produce seminal fluid) declined, and there was an increase in cell proliferation in their testicles, which could cause infertility or other problems.1 And when female hamsters were fed large amounts of a derivative of stevioside called steviol, they had fewer and smaller offspring.2 Would small amounts of stevia also cause reproductive problems? No one knows.

woah..

David · Post by **David** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:19 pm

yo_yo_girl wrote:Is snopes the hand Bible of all information on the net, or life? Ever wonder who controls snopes.com..etc. The fact that anything artificial, not natural, can be harmful to the body-- is basic common sense. I'll trust my own knowledge and not depend on a info/disinfo site run by who knows?

Snopes is a tool for sniffing out hokum, snake oil and bovine faeces that finds its way onto the net and emails. In the case of aspartame, they list a few sources that contradict some of the "findings". I agree that the FDA has lost a modicum of credibility, but not everything they say is a lie (Even Al Franken and Rush Limbaugh tell a story straight, at times). The Lancet, however is a well respected science journal. MIT studies has also found it innocuous. In the interest of being open-minded, please read the snopes link provided and the links offered to debunk the danger of aspartame. It did alter my perception.

The artificial vs natural is a long standing philosophic debate.
Yes, some artificial things are bad. By the same token, some artificial things are good. The same thing can be said for natural things. As examples, cobra venom, coniotoxin, botulin, ricin and cyanide are all as natural as sucrose. It has nothing to do with common sense and everything to do with subjectivity and as has been said previously, moderation. Understand, I have been an ethical vegetarian for over twenty years. It should then be evident were my sentiments lie, however it is crucial to be as objective as possible regarding the facts. I wish like anything that the removal of amalgam restorations would proffer the cures promised by so many charlatans, but in my 17 years of experience, I have yet to ameliorate a single case of MS by performing such a procedure. Forgive me, but tempting prose can often masquerade as "common sense".

be well,
david

David · Post by **David** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:23 pm

mmione wrote:Stevioside “seems to affect the male reproductive organ system,” European scientists concluded last year. When male rats were fed high doses of stevioside for 22 months, sperm production was reduced, the weight of seminal vesicles (which produce seminal fluid) declined, and there was an increase in cell proliferation in their testicles, which could cause infertility or other problems.1 And when female hamsters were fed large amounts of a derivative of stevioside called steviol, they had fewer and smaller offspring.2 Would small amounts of stevia also cause reproductive problems? No one knows.

woah..

Have you ever used stevia? I has a very strong aftertaste. Although it works fine in tea, I would not recommmend it for coffee or cooking.

Look into xylitol. In chewing gum, it has some interesting anticariogenic properties.

thepieman · Post by **thepieman** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:25 pm

I took 2 of those damn Maalaoxes and had a headache afterwards. I stay away from stuff with Aspartame just in case no matter what anyone says.

Pie

Bouncer · Post by **Bouncer** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:50 pm

yo_yo_girl wrote:Is snopes the hand Bible of all information on the net, or life? Ever wonder who controls snopes.com..etc. The fact that anything artificial, not natural, can be harmful to the body-- is basic common sense. I'll trust my own knowledge and not depend on a info/disinfo site run by who knows?

The fact is anything natural can kill you too. Breathing pure oxygen for too long? Deadly. How about pure hydrogen? Just as deadly. Mix them together and voila, pure water. Drink too much, and it is ALSO deadly.

It's about balancing risk and reward. And using moderation.

Regards,
-Bouncer-