Jessica Lynch is actually sort of...
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Originally posted by Burke
Wrong. There IS absolute right and wrong. Don't try to toe lines; either you see in black and white or you are blind. Your absolutes may differ from others, but anyone who does not recognize there is right and there is wrong in the world...right and wrong that transcends political, religious or social ideologies...is only fooling themselves into a comfortable gray area that doesn't truly exist.
Sorry on my usage of words.. I meant no absolute truth not right/wrong.
There is absolute truth, in your particular context. However, my truth is the ancient truth, arche in greek.
I'm just thinking that the usuage of the word truth is different from my usuage. I'm not thinking of mathematical truth or political truth or something within a context but more of a general/abstract truth. My truth is the truth where all thing comes from, in other words the orgin. Where everything is based from and where all things are derived from. The basis for everything, not the "right" or "wrong" of a particular subject or topic. It's the grand daddy of everything. If one can find my truth one will be able to answer all questions, in theory, of anything since it is based on it.
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She is just a victim of the press as said, but to wish death on anyone who is simple trying to serve her country, How you can blame a lowly PFC for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, just proves how ignorant you are about war. The crack about killing evil Muslums is just so far over the top that it almost has my blood boiling. Stop trying to make this a war against Islam, I am sick of your constant USA bashing, geeze.
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OMG there's a website for her! WTF http://www.jessica-lynch.com
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I don't agree with Mehmet but what I think I know what he is trying to say.
Earlier today on ABC or CNN, they did a story about another soldier in Lynch's group that single-handily fought and killed 8-9 Iraq's and this was done while being shot a couple times. He was trying to buy time for the others to escape. Matter of fact all the radio transmissions about being shot and stabbed during the fire fight were about HIM but this got confused and everyone thought they were talking about Lynch (thus the hero story began). The news story went on to say, "why we never heard anything about this and Lynch got all the glory") That soldier was killed.
So who deserves all the medals? Both of them! She did her duty, maybe not as on the same scale as her fellow soldier that died but it was not a piece of cake for her either.
Earlier today on ABC or CNN, they did a story about another soldier in Lynch's group that single-handily fought and killed 8-9 Iraq's and this was done while being shot a couple times. He was trying to buy time for the others to escape. Matter of fact all the radio transmissions about being shot and stabbed during the fire fight were about HIM but this got confused and everyone thought they were talking about Lynch (thus the hero story began). The news story went on to say, "why we never heard anything about this and Lynch got all the glory") That soldier was killed.
So who deserves all the medals? Both of them! She did her duty, maybe not as on the same scale as her fellow soldier that died but it was not a piece of cake for her either.
all too true...Originally posted by Brent
i agree with you
the media is the one who blew it out of proportion
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Originally posted by kneemeister
She is just a victim of the press as said, but to wish death on anyone who is simple trying to serve her country, How you can blame a lowly PFC for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, just proves how ignorant you are about war. The crack about killing evil Muslums is just so far over the top that it almost has my blood boiling. Stop trying to make this a war against Islam, I am sick of your constant USA bashing, geeze.
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you know what i hate the most?
The whole serve your country bullsh!!t.
uh, scuse me, last time i looked, ya got paid to "serve" your country.
If i was ignorant, i wouldnt be reading between the lines and understanding whats REALLY happening over there. wheres saddam, where is the WOMD? i dont see em anywhere, do you? check ouit http://www.msn.com "Saddam's Sons killed".
you read the article, and they have no ****!ng clue if they were killed or not, just that "its a possibility." If you believe that BS, and then a month later forget about it because they havent actually killed them, then i would point that "ignorant" stick at yourself. bastages.
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Originally posted by Mehmet
you know what i hate the most?
The whole serve your country bullsh!!t.
uh, scuse me, last time i looked, ya got paid to "serve" your country.
Just because you get paid to be brave doesn't mean your somehow less brave.
*edit* Why are you trying to be inflammatory on purpose? Makes no sense.........
She's presenting like a mandrill!
Originally posted by 64bit
Just because you get paid to be brave doesn't mean your somehow less brave.
*edit* Why are you trying to be inflammatory on purpose? Makes no sense.........
paid to be brave?
go to any country in the middle east (including turkey), and guess what, they want to go into the army, even though they dont get payed a dime, now THATS bravery, thats having pride.
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Originally posted by John
Yea, those countries can't afford to pay their citizens their due.
We are the best. Welcome to the USA.
Who cares if it was about WOMD, or Oil, or just feudal revenge. We are the most powerful, we crushed the regime Iraq, we crushed the regime in Afgahnistan, and we will continue to crush in order to benefit our people.
I for one hope the SOLE reason we went there is oil. We crushed the competition and now have our own source- excellent move! Pure capitalism baby, and that's what this country is founded on.
Crush on, America! Take over, control, prosper, and pass the goods along to our citizens.
john, that sounded way too sarcastic to be actually coming from you.
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My question was not meant to imply that Mehmet is a patriot. How can I know that? I'll restate my question. Is it possible, in your opinion, for someone to be patriotic AND anti-war? There, hope that clears it up......Originally posted by SLK
I didn't hear any patriotism at all. Just the First post got me a little fired up.
Originally posted by SLK
Whoa dude, Are you like against us americans or something??
big concept to understand isnt it.
some americans i can hug to death because their just so freaking brilliant, others, well, others...
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Unfortunately no, I don't see your point. IMO, Mehmet didn't threaten you or anybody else. He simply expressed his opinion about Jessica Lynch. I certainly don't think he threatened her, did he?Originally posted by SLK
I guess but not say it in a "threatoning way". Kinda see it where im standing??
And BTW, I was hoping for a more definitive response than "I guess".
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Mehmet,
What was her crime that is befitting death? I can understand the symbolism, however she is only a pawn. If you have an issue with the war, you should focus your ire on the men who were responsible for it.
shant,
david
What was her crime that is befitting death? I can understand the symbolism, however she is only a pawn. If you have an issue with the war, you should focus your ire on the men who were responsible for it.
shant,
david
I want to learn more and more to see as beautiful what is necessary in things; then I shall be one of those who make things beautiful. Amor fati: let that be my love henceforth! I do not want to wage war against what is ugly. I do not want to accuse; I do not even want to accuse those who accuse. Looking away shall be my only negation. And all in all and on the whole: some day I wish to be only a Yes-sayer.
Originally posted by Mehmet
big concept to understand isn't it.
some americans i can hug to death because their just so freaking brilliant, others, well, others...
big concept to understand for such a young fella that has only had a few years of life to gather so much wisdom. you're damning a concept that allows you and your family a freedom that is hard to come by...ask you elders!
Is someone holding a gun to your head and making you stay in this country? Is the grass greener on the other side? Go find out how great life is on the other side, then tell me all about it. Until then you should withhold your anger and save the energy for research toward your opinions!
Originally posted by BMED
big concept to understand for such a young fella that has only had a few years of life to gather so much wisdom. you're damning a concept that allows you and your family a freedom that is hard to come by...ask you elders!
Is someone holding a gun to your head and making you stay in this country? Is the grass greener on the other side? Go find out how great life is on the other side, then tell me all about it. Until then you should withhold your anger and save the energy for research toward your opinions!
were in the process of moving to that nice place up there, where they dont have 11 thousand gun deaths a year.
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Originally posted by axtrader
My question was not meant to imply that Mehmet is a patriot. How can I know that? I'll restate my question. Is it possible, in your opinion, for someone to be patriotic AND anti-war? There, hope that clears it up......
Absolutely.
If I were to say that this war is unjustified, and can only serve to damage our prestige in this world, I would be both. John is correct in that for oil alone, this was a victory. If we have become an empire who openly subjugates the sovereignty of weaker nations for their natural resources, should we still be calling this country moral?
Just some thoughts...
shant,
david
I want to learn more and more to see as beautiful what is necessary in things; then I shall be one of those who make things beautiful. Amor fati: let that be my love henceforth! I do not want to wage war against what is ugly. I do not want to accuse; I do not even want to accuse those who accuse. Looking away shall be my only negation. And all in all and on the whole: some day I wish to be only a Yes-sayer.

