LOL, Eminem Wins An Oscar.....

porkchop · Post by **porkchop** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 5:23 pm

Originally posted by Prey521
Like him or not, the guy can write and sing, a well deserved Oscar.....

Look for Hailie's Song from The Eminem Show. One song where he sang. Still better than Justin Timberlate squealing about crying rivers

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 5:38 pm

Originally posted by EvilAjax
the only point that was proven was the hate you feel towards him.

LOL YoS, I can't believe you said he doesn't have a lyrical gift. I hope you know there are other songs he SINGS SINGS SIIIINGS besides the ones in his albums and soundtracks. No one should be offended by what he says... it's called music.. he's stating his opinions and thoughts... Just as you and I.. I'm not even going to argue anymore... I blocked out all the damn curses and it was still edited-lol >sigh<

i'm not offended, just sayign some one with a lyrical gift wouldnt be so repetitive with the cursing.

someone with lyrical talent was Biggie Smalls(sp) dont like his stuff but he could write a song.

wee96 · Post by **wee96** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 6:51 pm

Thats the most intelligent sentence on this entire board.

Originally posted by Burke
There's nothing sweet about it as far as I'm concerned. The prevalence and praising of Eminem just shows the depths to which our culture is continuing to fall.

EvilAjax · Post by **EvilAjax** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 6:56 pm

ace · Post by **ace** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:02 pm

Originally posted by Prey521
Like him or not, the guy can write and sing, a well deserved Oscar.....

I agree with ya prey, but you know that if someone makes it big then there are always going to be people trying to bash him because "they" dont understand it or dont like it. I say more power to him for making great songs (IMHO :P ) and for making it big.

EvilAjax · Post by **EvilAjax** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:46 pm

Originally posted by a0c2e4
I agree with ya prey, but you know that if someone makes it big then there are always going to be people trying to bash him because "they" dont understand it or dont like it. I say more power to him for making great songs (IMHO :P ) and for making it big.

nepenthe · Post by **nepenthe** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 10:17 pm

What MM has taught us.... I agree that he is not an educator, however he is someone who is emulated. Dr. Dre knew damned well that if he presented a white face with street creds, he could have a rap superstar. Rap has had an extended fifteen minutes as that rebellious noise meant to scare or aggravate parents. That is the focus market for this genre.

Musicians, like most artists, do not usually have a prosperous life. As glamorous as it seems for the rarefied elite, it is very depressing.

david

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 10:28 pm

Eminem haters are just jeleous... it's so obvious.

nepenthe · Post by **nepenthe** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 10:42 pm

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Eminem haters are just jeleous... it's so obvious.

I have no time or energy to waste on hate.

EvilAjax · Post by **EvilAjax** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 12:22 am

"Dre, just cum and bum Aiyyo ram it up a little bit Aiyyo..
this song is for the gay one.. **** it Just shut up and listen,

This song is for the gay one? I don't remember Eminem spittin out a song like that... and trust me... IT WOULD BE KNOW ALL OVER THE WORLD. That's some song you just made up... the first song was from his first album, an EP titled Infinite. OLD... but its still hot... you just dont relate and hate...

It's called hip hop... they could say whatever the f they want..

Just like 50 cent said "I'm gettin what you get for a brick to talk greazy" - which basically means he's getting paid what drug dealers get paid after selling a kilo of coke, just to talk sh1t.

All it has to do is rhyme... then they all shine in time... and got a bunch of envious people who do nothin but whine

>OK I'M READY TO GO PLAY, I GOT THE MECHETE FROM O.J, READY TO MAKE EVERYONE'S THROATS ACHE<

hahaahaaa

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 12:55 am

I find it interesting that criticism of Eminem somehow equates to me being "jealous" of him. A sad defense indeed.

I don't really need to say more...the continued posting of his lyrics speak volumes for the point I was originally making.

EvilAjax · Post by **EvilAjax** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 1:09 am

it sure doessssss

Hopeful · Post by **Hopeful** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 1:15 am

I think that whole award was messed up... they woulda given it to "wild thornberries" had it not been for Eminem... and that was a bajillion times worse than having to listen to rap... anyway...

emixnem · Post by **emixnem** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 1:59 am

Mo Money, Mo Problems(Haters)...... -Biggie Smalls

CiscoKid · Post by **CiscoKid** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 2:27 am

I don't like Eminem for the fact that he comes off as "Anti-woman" if memory serves me right, his devorce was because he had abused his wife and since his devource he has had little contact with his child...

nepenthe · Post by **nepenthe** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 6:42 am

Being labelled as a "Hater" for not liking MM is rather ironic, don't you think?

shant,
david

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 8:04 am

Originally posted by Burke
I find it interesting that criticism of Eminem somehow equates to me being "jealous" of him. A sad defense indeed.

I don't really need to say more...the continued posting of his lyrics speak volumes for the point I was originally making.

ya i've argued this with alot of ppl and a very popular answer si "u just dont know, ur a hater, or ur jelious." add in as much ebonics as u care but thats the basic response.

EvilAjax · Post by **EvilAjax** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 11:48 am

I rather speak ebonic anyday before I speak that hacker ****... anyway...

You aren't labled a hater cuz you don't like Eminem... it's because you don't give props where its due.

ebonix yoo oyoyoyoyyo oyooyo ootyooyoyoy

I'm not even going to reply in this **** anymore.

tao_jones · Post by **tao_jones** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 12:08 pm

"there is some smoke in the city"....Bernie Mac....
wow there is some sh#t talking going on in here I personally listen to alot of forms of music including eminem....I think its what you take away from it different people will hear different things... and as far as abusive towards women/men/etc alot of popular music (hip-hop/rock/alterna/country) has had those type lyrics.....IMO

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 12:13 pm

Originally posted by EvilAjax
I rather speak ebonic anyday before I speak that hacker ****... anyway...

You aren't labled a hater cuz you don't like Eminem... it's because you don't give props where its due.

ebonix yoo oyoyoyoyyo oyooyo ootyooyoyoy

I'm not even going to reply in this **** anymore.

"Props", eh? I don't think Eminem or his ilk are due anything except my scorn.

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 12:25 pm

Originally posted by Burke
"Props", eh? I don't think Eminem or his ilk are due anything except my scorn.

And what gives you the right to scorn for him having his thoughts and expressing himself?

Not everybody is raised in a house of bubble wrap....FYI

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 12:26 pm

Originally posted by nepenthe
Being labelled as a "Hater" for not liking MM is rather ironic, don't you think?

shant,
david

LOL... so true

CiscoKid · Post by **CiscoKid** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 12:48 pm

Originally posted by tao_jones
and as far as abusive towards women/men/etc alot of popular music (hip-hop/rock/alterna/country) has had those type lyrics.....IMO

I've yet to hear a country song talking about beating women, Garth had a song a few years ago that was banned in the south because an abused wife killed her husband.

tao_jones · Post by **tao_jones** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 1:03 pm

Originally posted by CiscoKid
I've yet to hear a country song talking about beating women, Garth had a song a few years ago that was banned in the south because an abused wife killed her husband.

The garth brooks song was about a guy that drove a truck into a hotel room because his wife was cheating on him.

Let me ask you this if you have a song that is about a women killing the man that abused her.... and you have a song about a guy being angry and violent towards women because his mom beat him as a child is there a lot of difference....both are goning to leave scars

i am an enimen fan but i dont agree with his attitude towards women at all

CiscoKid · Post by **CiscoKid** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 1:05 pm

Originally posted by tao_jones
The garth brooks song was about a guy that drove a truck into a hotel room because his wife was cheating on him.

Let me ask you this if you have a song that is about a women killing the man that abused her.... and you have a song about a guy being angry and violent towards women because his mom beat him as a child is there a lot of difference....both are goning to leave scars

i am an enimen fan but i dont agree with his attitude towards women at all

Ah, sorry. forgot about that one

tao_jones · Post by **tao_jones** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 1:15 pm

Originally posted by CiscoKid
Ah, sorry. forgot about that one

Its ok the first time i heard the song i stoped and was like what the f%$k

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 1:34 pm

Originally posted by EvilAngel
And what gives you the right to scorn for him having his thoughts and expressing himself?

Not everybody is raised in a house of bubble wrap....FYI

I am not scorning him for the expression of the ideas, I am scorning the ideas themselves and the manner in which Eminem presents them. You can justify the delivery by saying it's because he had a rough childhood, or grew up around crime, whatever...but none of it excuses the fact that his lyrics incite and encourage young people to express themselves in a similar crude and crass way, to the detriment of society as a whole.

tao_jones · Post by **tao_jones** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 1:49 pm

Originally posted by Burke
I am not scorning him for the expression of the ideas, I am scorning the ideas themselves and the manner in which Eminem presents them. You can justify the delivery by saying it's because he had a rough childhood, or grew up around crime, whatever...but none of it excuses the fact that his lyrics incite and encourage young people to express themselves in a similar crude and crass way, to the detriment of society as a whole.

Is it that because he raps that there is a problem because heavy metal has a had "crude" messages in it and nobody complains about motley crue

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 1:51 pm

Originally posted by tao_jones
Is it that because he raps that there is a problem because heavy metal has a had "crude" messages in it and nobody complains about motley crue

No difference to me whatsoever...however, Eminem is ubiquitous with current pop culture (and thusly relies on millions of teenagers to fuel his album sales) and Motley Crue is not.

tao_jones · Post by **tao_jones** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 2:07 pm

but motley crue did when they actually sold albums

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 2:15 pm

Originally posted by tao_jones
but motley crue did when they actually sold albums

Even at their worst, Motley Crue never spoke of rape, murder and incest, and certainly not in the way Eminem does.

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 2:22 pm

Originally posted by Burke
I am not scorning him for the expression of the ideas, I am scorning the ideas themselves and the manner in which Eminem presents them. You can justify the delivery by saying it's because he had a rough childhood, or grew up around crime, whatever...but none of it excuses the fact that his lyrics incite and encourage young people to express themselves in a similar crude and crass way, to the detriment of society as a whole.

So everyone , no matter their background, should follow your impression of what societys standard should be....? Interesting.

tao_jones · Post by **tao_jones** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 2:25 pm

Originally posted by Burke
Even at their worst, Motley Crue never spoke of rape, murder and incest, and certainly not in the way Eminem does.

i havent heard eminem talking about raping and commiting incest

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 2:29 pm

Originally posted by EvilAngel
So everyone , no matter their background, should follow your impression of what societys standard should be....? Interesting.

If it means public figures being responsible and not contributing to the devolution of American culture through the poisoning of our youths, then absolutely.

Like it or not, there is right and wrong, and humans know instinctively what is right and what is wrong. Those who go to great lengths to justify the actions of others are only denying that which they already know. It is patently wrong to espouse the ideas of people like Eminem as the mainstream in America, when they are not.

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 2:34 pm

Originally posted by Burke
If it means public figures being responsible and not contributing to the devolution of American culture through the poisoning of our youths, then absolutely.

Like it or not, there is right and wrong, and humans know instinctively what is right and what is wrong. Those who go to great lengths to justify the actions of others are only denying that which they already know.

So "We the People" are that weak, as to, actualy have our actions swayed and manipulated to do "evil or wrong" through a song or lyrics? Thats rediculuos!

So if I listen to Queen or Elton John does that mean I'll turn into a gay man or wanting to eplore other mens extremeities?

tao_jones · Post by **tao_jones** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 2:35 pm

Originally posted by Burke
If it means public figures being responsible and not contributing to the devolution of American culture through the poisoning of our youths, then absolutely.

Like it or not, there is right and wrong, and humans know instinctively what is right and what is wrong. Those who go to great lengths to justify the actions of others are only denying that which they already know.

WOW

this is turning into the Charles Barkley Argument in which is soceity (ie...entertainers and sportstars) responsible for raising children or is parents that should teach right or wrong

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 2:37 pm

Originally posted by tao_jones
WOW this is turning into the Charles Barkley Argument in which is soceity (ie...entertainers and sportstars) responsible for raising children or is parents that should teach right or worng

Exactly...

IMO that's very shallow thinking for people who profess such intelligence.

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 2:39 pm

Originally posted by EvilAngel
So "We the People" are that weak, as to, actualy have our actions swayed and manipulated to do "evil or wrong" through a song or lyrics? Thats rediculuos!

So if I listen to Queen or Elton John does that mean I'll turn into a gay man or wanting to eplore other mens extremeities?

Young people are.

It's not a matter of being swayed into action, but rather a systematic desensitizing of people to the kind of material Eminem disseminates.

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 2:41 pm

Originally posted by tao_jones
WOW this is turning into the Charles Barkley Argument in which is soceity (ie...entertainers and sportstars) responsible for raising children or is parents that should teach right or wrong

Parents should be raising their children, of course. However, it is naive to believe that people are thrust out into the world and are all capable of discerning between what is entertainment and what is reality.

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 2:42 pm

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Exactly...

IMO that's very shallow thinking for people who profess such intelligence.

I'm not sure what you mean by that.

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LOL, Eminem Wins An Oscar.....

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