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Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 12:15 am
by JawZ
SlyOneDoofy wrote: I didn't say all non-english speaking people should be questioned.

Then who should be questioned and on what basis? Why is your name Doofy? Are you an idiot?

I have balls...do you have a brain?

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 12:42 am
by SlyOneDoofy
JawZ wrote:Cops just don't pull people over...they have to have probable cause. Residents and Citizens are NOT the same. Does someone with a Green Card need to speak English? What about H Visas?


See, this is the problem with people like you. You don't think before you speak. You're just the echo chamber for other mindless twits.
like me? Aren't you doing what you are argueing against.....LABELING?

The problem with people like you is your attitude which is the reason people stop coming to this site.

I asked questions and got attacked by you.

God forbid anyone has an opinion that differs from yours.

Bye.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 1:04 am
by SlyOneDoofy
JawZ wrote:Then who should be questioned and on what basis? Why is your name Doofy? Are you an idiot?

I have balls...do you have a brain?
Yes I have a brain. At least that's what my brother-in-law from Mexico city tells me.

You imply I have no knowledge of greencards, visa and citizenship. You are wrong.

I have talked with my brother-in-law who now has his citizenship. I'll tell you a story about him.

He came with a student visa. Stayed here illegally after it ran out. Kept his nose clean and met my sister. They decided to take a trip to Vancouver, BC. The US border let him out but the Canadian Border wouldn't let him into Canada so they turned around to go back into the US. Canada called the US border and he was stopped and deported to Mexico since he was an illegal. During this process he put his Drivers License in his shoe. When he got to Mexico, he went to the border, showed his ID and they let him in and he flew back home.

Tell me there isn't a problem with border security.....

After that, he married my sister,went through the process and gained his citizenship.

So don't tell me I'm ignorant of the immigration process. I'm the one who bought him a $500 watch when he got his citizenship. And you can guess the brand of watch I bought him.

Bye.

By The Time I Get To Arizona

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 4:10 am
by The_Informer
:(

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 6:19 am
by Prey521
If a medium build, head shaven, tan 6'3" male with a late model Chevy Tahoe is going around Orange County, NY robbing banks, I kind of expect to get stopped and questioned by the police till the actual robber is caught and I won't give the cops a hard time if/when they stop me. Hell, this law goes the extra step and doesn't allow the police to question someone they might suspect is illegal unless they've already stopped them for something else. We need to stop being so damn PC in this country and stop worrying about whom we're going to offend when we write a law that's meant to protect this country.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 7:24 am
by Roody
The_Informer wrote: :(
You can't put the entirety of the URL in your link Informer. Only the last parts after the = sign.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 7:57 am
by The_Informer
Roody wrote:You can't put the entirety of the URL in your link Informer. Only the last parts after the = sign.

Thanks Roody, do you mean the // ? I tried to copy & paste the entire url
in the blinking cursor area between the you tube symbols. Do I just use the www. etc.?

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 7:58 am
by The_Informer
JawZ wrote:Then who should be questioned and on what basis? Why is your name Doofy? Are you an idiot?

I have balls...do you have a brain?
:wth:

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 10:51 am
by JawZ
SlyOneDoofy wrote:Yes I have a brain. At least that's what my brother-in-law from Mexico city tells me.

You imply I have no knowledge of greencards, visa and citizenship. You are wrong.

I have talked with my brother-in-law who now has his citizenship. I'll tell you a story about him.

He came with a student visa. Stayed here illegally after it ran out. Kept his nose clean and met my sister. They decided to take a trip to Vancouver, BC. The US border let him out but the Canadian Border wouldn't let him into Canada so they turned around to go back into the US. Canada called the US border and he was stopped and deported to Mexico since he was an illegal. During this process he put his Drivers License in his shoe. When he got to Mexico, he went to the border, showed his ID and they let him in and he flew back home.

Tell me there isn't a problem with border security.....

After that, he married my sister,went through the process and gained his citizenship.

So don't tell me I'm ignorant of the immigration process. I'm the one who bought him a $500 watch when he got his citizenship. And you can guess the brand of watch I bought him.

Bye.


Stayed here illegally. Just ****ing great. :rolleyes: So now you are contributing to the problem. Just absolutely great. This is EXACTLY why we have a problem because of the foolish actions of people like you. You complain about stuff but when confronted with the same exact thing you whine about....you either cave-in morally/ethically...or you turn the blind eye which only ENABLES the illegal action.

So no...there isn't a problem with border security in this case, the problem was and always will be...YOU.


You have two choices, shut up since you are a hypocrite or apply what you have learned about immigrants and actually offer USEFUL and REASONABLE solutions to the problem.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 11:13 am
by Qwijib0
JBrazen wrote:If a medium build, head shaven, tan 6'3" male with a late model Chevy Tahoe is going around Orange County, NY robbing banks, I kind of expect to get stopped and questioned by the police till the actual robber is caught and I won't give the cops a hard time if/when they stop me. Hell, this law goes the extra step and doesn't allow the police to question someone they might suspect is illegal unless they've already stopped them for something else. We need to stop being so damn PC in this country and stop worrying about whom we're going to offend when we write a law that's meant to protect this country.
But illegal aliens come in all colors.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 11:23 am
by JawZ
JBrazen wrote:If a medium build, head shaven, tan 6'3" male with a late model Chevy Tahoe is going around Orange County, NY robbing banks, I kind of expect to get stopped and questioned by the police till the actual robber is caught and I won't give the cops a hard time if/when they stop me. Hell, this law goes the extra step and doesn't allow the police to question someone they might suspect is illegal unless they've already stopped them for something else. We need to stop being so damn PC in this country and stop worrying about whom we're going to offend when we write a law that's meant to protect this country.

The country doesn't need protection...the Constitution does. I value my rights more than you.

This is ****ing priceless...
We need to stop being so damn PC in this country and stop worrying about whom we're going to offend
Now as soon as I start to chime in, you will wind up complaining, as usual...to Philip. So here we go.


How the flying **** do you differentiate between an illegal immigrant and a legal immigrant based on appearance? I would love to hear this explanation. In fact, I would so much like to hear it that I'd offer up doing it live during a recorded session. In fact, I would allow every single person in this forum the same opportunity although I know for a fact that not a single one of you will do it.


BTW, you're not tan...you are black. Does your "tan" disappear in the winter? You are an African American. Do you hate being black? Why do you try soooooooooo hard to be white? Why do you always water down your own heritage? Isn't that being PC? Yeah...I thought so.

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Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate than white people? So it would be safe to say that YOU should be expected to commit a crime. That's racial profiling. We're saying that since you are in fact black, we can predict, with accuracy, that you will eventually commit a crime. So we'll just keep watching you until you screw up.


This is NOT the America I want. Always living in fear. It's pathetic.

Lazy fat ass white people and white wannabes complaining about illegal immigrants that will do jobs that the same lazy fat ass white people won't perform. :thumb:

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 11:32 am
by JC
JawZ wrote:The country doesn't need protection...the Constitution does. I value my rights more than you.

This is ****ing priceless...



Now as soon as I start to chime in, you will wind up complaining, as usual...to Philip. So here we go.


How the flying **** do you differentiate between an illegal immigrant and a legal immigrant based on appearance? I would love to hear this explanation. In fact, I would so much like to hear it that I'd offer up doing it live during a recorded session. In fact, I would allow every single person in this forum the same opportunity although I know for a fact that not a single one of you will do it.


BTW, you're not tan...you are black. Does your "tan" disappear in the winter? You are an African American. Do you hate being black? Why do you try soooooooooo hard to be white? Why do you always water down your own heritage? Isn't that being PC? Yeah...I thought so.


Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate than white people? So it would be safe to say that YOU should be expected to commit a crime. That's racial profiling. We're saying that since you are in fact black, we can predict, with accuracy, that you will eventually commit a crime. So we'll just keep watching you until you screw up.


This is NOT the America I want. Always living in fear. It's pathetic.

Lazy fat ass white people and white wannabes complaining about illegal immigrants that will do jobs that the same lazy fat ass white people won't perform. :thumb:
Oooh, can I do a recorded session. :)

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 11:36 am
by Easto
Illegal is not a race, it's a crime.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 11:43 am
by JawZ
SlyOneDoofy wrote:like me? Aren't you doing what you are argueing against.....LABELING?

The problem with people like you is your attitude which is the reason people stop coming to this site.

I asked questions and got attacked by you.

God forbid anyone has an opinion that differs from yours.

Bye.

When you pass off your opinion as fact, that's when I respond. Thank God people stopped coming to the site because it's been peaceful since then. But now we have people like you trying to rock the boat, stirring up **** only because you can. Your only desire is to argue till you're blue in the face.

The reason why I'm still here, is because I DON'T bring up these lame, half ass topics. I'm not part of the same group of people that constantly stirs the pot.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 11:48 am
by JawZ
JC wrote:Oooh, can I do a recorded session. :)

You can hold JBrazen's hand. :p


Does the SG Teamspeak server still exist? If not, maybe we can do it on Skype.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 11:56 am
by Sarahnn
JawZ wrote:When you pass off your opinion as fact, that's when I respond. Thank God people stopped coming to the site because it's been peaceful since then. But now we have people like you trying to rock the boat, stirring up **** only because you can. Your only desire is to argue till you're blue in the face.

The reason why I'm still here, is because I DON'T bring up these lame, half ass topics. I'm not part of the same group of people that constantly stirs the pot.
Yes, clearly, you are a man of peace, Jawz. :rotfl:

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 12:00 pm
by Sarahnn
JawZ wrote:
I have balls...do you have a brain?
Anatomy class 101 :thumb:

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 12:22 pm
by Prey521
Jawz, I said tan because most people don't know that I'm biracial and usually assume that I'm Hispanic, and since my skin color is NOT black, tan's the best word to use if one were to describe me.

Either way, you're an antagonistic d'bag and I won't address you any further in this thread.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 12:24 pm
by Sarahnn
JBrazen wrote:Jawz, I said tan because most people don't know that I'm biracial and since my skin color is NOT black, tan's the best word to use.

Either way, you're an antagonistic d'bag and I won't address you any further in this thread.
Is that you in the pic? You're a good lookin dude. :thumb:

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 12:25 pm
by Sarahnn
This thread has got to sink. Everytime I see the title I start humming "I wish they all could be California girls" . :cry:

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 12:29 pm
by Prey521
Qwijib0 wrote:But illegal aliens come in all colors.
I was only applying skin color to the example that I used. In Arizona, regardless of skin color, the illegals will more than likely only speak Spanish and using that, along with other things like the person acting suspicious COULD be a clue for the officer that the person may be illegal and therefore ask them for documentation.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 12:29 pm
by Prey521
Sarahnn wrote:Is that you in the pic? You're a good lookin dude. :thumb:
Yes and thank you. :)

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 12:57 pm
by JawZ
JBrazen wrote:Jawz, I said tan because most people don't know that I'm biracial and usually assume that I'm Hispanic, and since my skin color is NOT black, tan's the best word to use if one were to describe me.

Either way, you're an antagonistic d'bag and I won't address you any further in this thread.

No. YOU know that you are biracial. Tan is not the best word to describe your genetic makeup.

Let's just end this...how did you answer question number 9 on the 2010 Census? White or Black?


I love how you throw out the name calling when pinned down. Classic stuff. You always devolve....every single time. I know the reason, because you finally learn that your position has no merit and you should have just kept your comments to yourself.


The beauty in this thread lies in the comments by 'Doofy. Everything he railed against, he supported. As soon as it became personal, he turned the blind eye. So it's ok for "Doofy to support illegal immigration as long as he knew the illegal immigrant!!!!! This only supports what we're all saying to you...you can't judge a book by it's cover. And what you al want to do is violate the rights of EVERYONE in order to go on a witch hunt looking for a minority criminal population.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 12:58 pm
by Roody
The_Informer wrote:Thanks Roody, do you mean the // ? I tried to copy & paste the entire url
in the blinking cursor area between the you tube symbols. Do I just use the www. etc.?
Here let me give you an example. This is the entire URL for a YouTube video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnkOkraJXK4

In this case the YouTube tags don't require the entire URL to work so all you need is the part after the = which would be rnkOkraJXK4

So hit the YouTube icon at the top of the post when you are replying and then drop that in there. It will embed the video into your post. :)

[YOUTUBE]rnkOkraJXK4[/YOUTUBE]

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 1:14 pm
by JawZ
JBrazen wrote:I was only applying skin color to the example that I used. In Arizona, regardless of skin color, the illegals will more than likely only speak Spanish and using that, along with other things like the person acting suspicious COULD be a clue for the officer that the person may be illegal and therefore ask them for documentation.

Only Spanish huh?

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/oct/05 ... smuggling5

This is why ignorance must be stood up to. So what about all these CHINESE immigrants in Arizona?

We should just round up everyone in Arizona in a Gestapo-esque manner and identify everyone. Why wouldn't this work for ya'll?

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 3:12 pm
by Sarahnn
JawZ wrote:Only Spanish huh?

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/oct/05 ... smuggling5

This is why ignorance must be stood up to. So what about all these CHINESE immigrants in Arizona?
Oh no! The Chinese are crossing the Mexican border illegally too? Where does it end??? :(

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 3:20 pm
by Prey521
Easto wrote:Illegal is not a race, it's a crime.
:thumb:

When you have instigating idiots like Obama saying that you're gonna get harassed while going out with your kids to eat some ice cream, it doesn't help the situation any. Whether they're illegal or not, the law's written in such a way that if the officer breaks the law in trying to obtain the status of the person they've stopped, then they'd also be be violating the Constitutions of Arizona AND the US. As much as many people want it to be so, this law does not make it illegal to "live while Hispanic". As much as the Bush Admin was criticized for spreading FUD, Obama and the rest of the bleeding hearts in the MSM are just as guilty.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 3:21 pm
by Prey521
Sarahnn wrote:Oh no! The Chinese are crossing the Mexican border illegally too? Where does it end??? :(
:rotfl:

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 3:25 pm
by The_Informer
I thought Jbrazen was Hispanic from his pic. But he shouldn't have to explain himself.

I really do not think he deserved the backlash along with Sly, in this thread.

JawZ can call this forum peaceful since everyone left? I mean wft would people stay if they are slammed for having a opinion that is different, right or wrong.

The big picture is people will be pulled over and checked at any time, for no reason . First it will be the Hispanics, then another minority group, etc.. Then it will get down to whites also. Privacy will and is a thing of the past.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 3:38 pm
by Prey521
^ LOL I don't sweat it, he's a self righteous wannabe bad ass that probably wears the tampon in his marriage and the forums are where he vents. The internet's littered with his type. I just feel sorry for them and eventually ignore them once I realize that it's how they are most of the time. :)

Oh and I get confused with being Hispanic all the time. :D

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 3:41 pm
by The_Informer
Roody wrote:Here let me give you an example. This is the entire URL for a YouTube video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnkOkraJXK4

In this case the YouTube tags don't require the entire URL to work so all you need is the part after the = which would be rnkOkraJXK4
+1 thanks for the reply

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 3:50 pm
by Roody
The_Informer wrote:+1 thanks for the reply
Sure thing. Happy to help. :)

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 10:22 pm
by SlyOneDoofy
JawZ wrote:Stayed here illegally. Just ****ing great. :rolleyes: So now you are contributing to the problem. Just absolutely great. This is EXACTLY why we have a problem because of the foolish actions of people like you. You complain about stuff but when confronted with the same exact thing you whine about....you either cave-in morally/ethically...or you turn the blind eye which only ENABLES the illegal action.

So no...there isn't a problem with border security in this case, the problem was and always will be...YOU.


You have two choices, shut up since you are a hypocrite or apply what you have learned about immigrants and actually offer USEFUL and REASONABLE solutions to the problem.
I didn't know he was illegal at the time. So I am not the problem. My bad that I used to think like you. That is why I never asked if he was illegal.

And by your opinion....I should have never asked.

Furthermore, don't pretend to know me. You make incorrect assumptions based upon a minor amount of info. That's your fault. Not mine.

It's obvious you have an issue with me which is fine. I couldn't care less.

There are other people in this room with less abrasive attitudes with the ability to hold a conversation without personally attacking.

Don't bother responding to this post. It's a waste of your time.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 11:13 pm
by SlyOneDoofy
JawZ wrote:No. YOU know that you are biracial. Tan is not the best word to describe your genetic makeup.

Let's just end this...how did you answer question number 9 on the 2010 Census? White or Black?


I love how you throw out the name calling when pinned down. Classic stuff. You always devolve....every single time. I know the reason, because you finally learn that your position has no merit and you should have just kept your comments to yourself.


The beauty in this thread lies in the comments by 'Doofy. Everything he railed against, he supported. As soon as it became personal, he turned the blind eye. So it's ok for "Doofy to support illegal immigration as long as he knew the illegal immigrant!!!!! This only supports what we're all saying to you...you can't judge a book by it's cover. And what you al want to do is violate the rights of EVERYONE in order to go on a witch hunt looking for a minority criminal population.
AT the time I didn't know he was illegal. Enough said.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 11:18 pm
by Humboldt
SlyOneDoofy wrote: I could care less.
Couldn't care less :)

*backs away slowly*

My apologies, I can't help it.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 11:48 pm
by JawZ
JBrazen wrote:^ LOL I don't sweat it, he's a self righteous wannabe bad ass that probably wears the tampon in his marriage and the forums are where he vents. The internet's littered with his type. I just feel sorry for them and eventually ignore them once I realize that it's how they are most of the time. :)

Oh and I get confused with being Hispanic all the time. :D

Gee, I happen to remember not so long ago when I approached you PRIVATELY with good sound advice on how not to make yourself look foolish by posting things that weren't true. I have those private messages saved. You and I both know what was in those PM's. I always make an attempt to take the high road so as to avoid any sort of unnecessary confrontation in the public forums. Is that a sign of the self righteous?

I happen to think that you are a fairly smart dude but sometimes you need to be hit with a ten ton hammer over the head in order for you to see that always towing the party line sometimes isn't logical. I'm glad that you are loyal to the GOP but this isn't what the GOP needs right know. The GOP needs critical thinking and complex problem solving skills. The Arizona solution is a band-aid fix for an arterial bleed.

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 12:48 am
by SlyOneDoofy
Humboldt wrote:Couldn't care less :)

*backs away slowly*

My apologies, I can't help it.
Thanks for the correction. :)

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 12:51 am
by Xpunge
SlyOneDoofy wrote:Thanks for the correction. :)
one could "care less" even. it all works, in context.

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 12:56 am
by Humboldt
Xpunge wrote:one could "care less" even. it all works, in context.
It's not "care less" that's in question.

It's could/couldn't.

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 12:57 am
by Humboldt
SlyOneDoofy wrote:Thanks for the correction. :)
Just hit me. Not trying to be a smart ass.

:cheers: