Lo latency ISP

dmsmed · Post by **dmsmed** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 11:31 am

A few weeks ago I was helping a relative find a DSL provider in their area (Chicago N. burbs). I found an ISP which offered a special "gamers DSL" which promised extra short latency (shorter than their standard ADSL. Now I can't remember who they are, has anyone heard of such a DSL? Mind you I'm not talking about bandwidth.

Immortal · Post by **Immortal** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 11:40 am

I know what u mean... latency not bandwidth..

I have never heard of such thing.. marketing perhaps? to target ignorant gamers?

I mean physical distance to the CO can't change.. no matter how many strong repeaters they put in there... I doubt they'll give this particular "gamer" priority or extra line quality...

So to me this sounds like bogus marketing stuff that knows alot of gamers love low latency and such... that's what I think...

dmsmed · Post by **dmsmed** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 7:37 pm

No, but they could route differently to eliminate hops and hence reduce ping times.

dmsmed · Post by **dmsmed** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 8:01 pm

P.S.

I work for the phone company, LOL.

Immortal · Post by **Immortal** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 10:49 pm

Originally posted by dmsmed
No, but they could route differently to eliminate hops and hence reduce ping times.

They could... but think about it... will they re route the thing differently? it'll be a lot .. alot of hassel for such thing for a few customers.. dont u think? it's not like it's a button.. make this connection for this person faster... so Idon't know... *shrugs*

Rivas · Post by **Rivas** » Wed Feb 26, 2003 12:08 am

if u wanna great isp move to sweden

....10mb pipe 40 bucks ...if u r lucky u can get even 100mb for the same price

Immortal · Post by **Immortal** » Wed Feb 26, 2003 12:13 am

Originally posted by rivas
if u wanna great isp move to sweden ....10mb pipe 40 bucks ...if u r lucky u can get even 100mb for the same price

I'm there! I'm packing my bags as we speak!

Rivas · Post by **Rivas** » Wed Feb 26, 2003 12:20 am

Originally posted by Immortal
I'm there! I'm packing my bags as we speak!

yup
fiber optics rocks

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Wed Feb 26, 2003 5:09 am

I have heard of low latency ISP's who take pride in their quality bandwidth. The ISP I used in the dial up days took pride in that. They've gone through several buyouts and mergers, still use them for their DSL and it is well above the quality of the local phone company's DSL.

Another DSL provider we've been hoping to resell is DSL.NET....which is expanding fairly quick across the nation.

http://www.dsl.net/

There's nothing bogus about it...better equipment, not overselling, a more direct gateway on a fatter and better quality backbone to the internet.

Take several ISP's, and run traceroutes to the same IP. The low quality ISP's will give you hops in the mid 20's....the better ISP's will give you barely over a dozen hops.

dmsmed · Post by **dmsmed** » Wed Feb 26, 2003 9:35 am

I was hoping to get that kind of answer. I'm going to use my Earthlink DSL line 1250down/327up for IP telephony. I haven't ordered the equipment yet and my concern was I would have 1/2 or 3/4 second of latency. The company I plan on using is Vonage. The are offering a free Cisco telephony adapter and unlimited U.S. domestic calls for $39.00/month.

Illini25 · Post by **Illini25** » Wed Feb 26, 2003 10:02 am

Originally posted by dmsmed
A few weeks ago I was helping a relative find a DSL provider in their area (Chicago N. burbs). I found an ISP which offered a special "gamers DSL" which promised extra short latency (shorter than their standard ADSL. Now I can't remember who they are, has anyone heard of such a DSL? Mind you I'm not talking about bandwidth.

Was it Speakeasy DSL? I remember seeing a banner about a 'gamers dsl' from speakeasy.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Wed Feb 26, 2003 11:47 am

Originally posted by dmsmed
I was hoping to get that kind of answer. I'm going to use my Earthlink DSL line 1250down/327up for IP telephony. I haven't ordered the equipment yet and my concern was I would have 1/2 or 3/4 second of latency. The company I plan on using is Vonage. The are offering a free Cisco telephony adapter and unlimited U.S. domestic calls for $39.00/month.

Heh, cool, I looked into that product (Vonage) for someone...they didnt' get it yet, so haven't played with it..although I want to. Looks cool.

Broadsword · Post by **Broadsword** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 10:11 pm

Originally posted by rivas
if u wanna great isp move to sweden ....10mb pipe 40 bucks ...if u r lucky u can get even 100mb for the same price

aka: move to NJ/NY/CT and get OOL, $25 for 10mbps with 15 ping rock solid to good NYC servers

SICMF · Post by **SICMF** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 10:35 pm

Speakeasy offers Gamer service will supposed lower latency

Rivas · Post by **Rivas** » Fri Feb 28, 2003 12:03 am

Originally posted by OptKing
aka: move to NJ/NY/CT and get OOL, $25 for 10mbps with 15 ping rock solid to good NYC servers

If you have Cablevision OOL, check your upload cause they are now capping to 150000bps you if you go over some secret amount which they will not publish. ...

http://www.broadbandreports.com/comment/552/8392?r=765

Broadsword · Post by **Broadsword** » Fri Feb 28, 2003 12:52 pm

Hm, don't know. I've been uploading and downloading games for months now pretty much non-stop without a cap...

Rivas · Post by **Rivas** » Fri Feb 28, 2003 5:40 pm

Originally posted by OptKing
Hm, don't know. I've been uploading and downloading games for months now pretty much non-stop without a cap...

using GL ?

Bouncer · Post by **Bouncer** » Sat Mar 01, 2003 1:53 am

If you've got a 500 -750ms response time I'm not sure VOIP will work. The Cisco call manager needs to see a response in something like 350ms or less.

Regards,
-Bouncer-

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Sat Mar 01, 2003 2:10 am

Originally posted by OptKing
Hm, don't know. I've been uploading and downloading games for months now pretty much non-stop without a cap...

Certainly you mean demos downloaded from legitimate FTPs, right? I thought so.

Broadsword · Post by **Broadsword** » Sat Mar 01, 2003 12:02 pm

Originally posted by Burke
Certainly you mean demos downloaded from legitimate FTPs, right? I thought so.

Of course.

Whats GL mean?

Rivas · Post by **Rivas** » Sat Mar 01, 2003 1:23 pm

Originally posted by OptKing
Of course.

Whats GL mean?

GlftpD,ftp server fox nix way better and stable than Ioftpd or Raidenftpd

Broadsword · Post by **Broadsword** » Sat Mar 01, 2003 1:31 pm

Eh, dont know. I use BPFTP... for sharing demos of course, I have fast upload and sometimes they get clogged

Rivas · Post by **Rivas** » Sat Mar 01, 2003 2:12 pm

Originally posted by OptKing
Eh, dont know. I use BPFTP... for sharing demos of course, I have fast upload and sometimes they get clogged

fast upload ...does it mean u can hit 1.3mb/s ?

Broadsword · Post by **Broadsword** » Sat Mar 01, 2003 3:11 pm

cyberskye · Post by **cyberskye** » Tue Mar 04, 2003 4:12 pm

speakeasy gamer package. 3 hops to backbone.

Massa · Post by **Massa** » Tue Mar 04, 2003 7:21 pm

Is 10 hops a good number to get or should i aim lower (on my 3000/384 cable connection)

cyberskye · Post by **cyberskye** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 1:23 pm

The lower the better. Not really something that you can control, tho - outside of switching ISPs

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