LANGuard: is it a firewall software?

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LANGuard: is it a firewall software?

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What are it's uses? I read the blurb about it on the website. It seems to be similar to a firewall because it detects intrusions.

Is this something that I can use in addition to my sygate firewall to secure my PC?

Are there any precautions I need to take while using it?
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No one? Or have I asked a dumb question? (you got to excuse me for I am a networking newbie).
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LANguard

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I am assuming you are referring to GFI LANguard. No, it is not a firewall. It is more like a network auditing sofware. It scans your network for possible security risks, and reports each one. The purchased version will patch certain vendor software.
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Re: LANguard

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Originally posted by burneco
I am assuming you are referring to GFI LANguard. No, it is not a firewall. It is more like a network auditing sofware. It scans your network for possible security risks, and reports each one. The purchased version will patch certain vendor software.
Yes. I am referring to GFI Languard.

Will it also report security risks on a single PC connected to a cable modem? Sorry if this is a dumb question.
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yes it will....

it's actually rather neat. you can direct it to scan your public subnet and it'll return all the info on the machines connected to the same ISP subnet... really actually kind of amazing what you might find.... of course you would never use that information to your advantage if you wanted to keep in the good graces of your ISP :)
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Thanks for the info. Actually I want to keep my security checks only within my own LAN and not outside it. My replacement Nexland router just arrived by UPS and my network is in operation now.

Are there any precautions that I can take to avoid scanning any PCs other than my own? I dont want to get in trouble with my ISP. I havent even installed the software due to this fear. But I hear it is good to enhance security and I am eager to try it.
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I use languard from my office to scan our high speed users (DSL and T-1 customers) to be able to help them secure their systems. Also like to know who is running p2p software so they can be dealt with.

Actually from my perspective, I really like it, but it can be easily misused by those in the black hats.

Funny story - Scanned a subnet (DSL) one day and found a c:\ share on a customer's machine. Open to the world :rtfm: Holy Jeebus! And Win98 to boot. Screaming HACK ME! So I tried to call, got no answer, and decided to leave a .txt note on her desktop for her to call me. No call. Did the same thing for 2 weeks every day, then decided to shut her circuit down, maybe then she'll return a call.......nope. A week later she calls, not about her DSL being down, but about some strange icons on her desktop...................
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Old Fart is correct (not that I ever doubted him), it will show open shares as well as other vulnerabilities on your network machines. Don't wory about scanning other machines on the WAN of your provider. Scan only the IP addresses of your machines.

You'll find out what ports are open on your machines as well.

LANGuard also makes nice HTML reports per scan. Which can be great for future reference.

Install it. It's great. I believe the newest version, 3 is not free, but the older version..... 2.0 is free for personal use.
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Good point Cruelson

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DON'T use Languard to scan random IP addresses or subnets outside your network.

Anyone running a half decent firewall will get a report of you attempting to connect to every common port on their machine, including your IP address and what you scanned them with.

This can be and IS an intrusion attempt on your part. A mini hacking attempt. It can be grounds for your ISP to decide they no longer want your business. I am a SysAdmin for a small local ISP. I use the program to scan the subnets that we own to make sure my customers are protected from themselves. It is way too easy to set up a webserver improperly.
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I learned that not too long back. In an attempt to learn more about networking a friend had scanned a few different networks and was warned by their ISP when one network admin/user complained.
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Post by neo960 »

Have any of you used GFI's S.E.L.M.? How is it?

I know that it audits internal LAN users misusing system resources. But does it detect external hackers unauthorizedly logging into your machine?

Edited to add: This post probably belongs in the security forum. Mods please feel free to move if necessary. Thanks.
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S.E.L.M

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Sorry, I've not used it as of yet. But it look promising.
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I installed SELM yesterday.

Today I got the following scary warning from it regarding my NT machine:

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LANguard S.E.L.M. critical security level warning :

Event Origin Details:
S.E.L.M. Event ID: XXXXXX
Date & Time: 1/7/2003 - 12:40:33 AM
Within N.O.Time: No
Source: Security
Computer: XXXXXXX
User: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM

The audit log was cleared


Primary User Name: SYSTEM
Primary Domain: NT AUTHORITY
Primary Logon ID: (xxx)
Client User Name: Administrator
Client Domain: XXXXXXXX
Client Logon ID: (xxx)

The Audit Log on machine XXXXXX was cleared by user Administrator on domain XXXXXX.

Possible causes for the generation of this event are
(1) When a certain limit is exceeded the event log is cleared
(2) This could be an attempt to hide an intrusion.
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Is it normal for audit logs on NT4.0 server to be cleared automatically?
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