Cable upload/download limits

Vidiot · Post by **Vidiot** » Wed Apr 03, 2002 6:28 pm

I have recently had my upload/download limits set to 1 gig up/5 gig down/month by my cable company due to "abuse of acceptable usage". They are now monitoring me daily. Damn....this is a non-connection to me. I have this great high-speed connection, and now I can't use it.

Changing ISP's is not an option here. Does anyone know anyway around this? Any help will be appreciated,.

Dakota · Post by **Dakota** » Wed Apr 03, 2002 9:25 pm

Welcome to the forum and now you gotta share!

Who's your ISP and what kind of abuse did you commit to warrant such a limit?

glc1 · Post by **glc1** » Wed Apr 03, 2002 10:01 pm

Welcome to SpeedGuide.net...

If you violated the AUP/TOS, then the ISP have every right to implemet such limits and there's no legal way around them.

How did you violate the AUP/TOS? Were you running a server?

Vidiot · Post by **Vidiot** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 7:39 am

Who's your ISP and what kind of abuse did you commit to warrant such a limit?

My ISP is Cogeco@Home....near Toronto Ontario

They didn't seem to like the fact that I transfered over 70 gig of data in 3 weeks.....

glc1 · Post by **glc1** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 1:57 pm

Originally posted by Vidiot

My ISP is Cogeco@Home....near Toronto Ontario

They didn't seem to like the fact that I transfered over 70 gig of data in 3 weeks.....

I don't blame them. They probably figure you were running a server of some kind. Were you?

Vidiot · Post by **Vidiot** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 6:50 pm

I had an FTP server set up for 2 of my friends to use. (Which I have now closed) Other than that most of the stuff was downloads.... But that's irrelevent really. I simply asked if there was a way around it. Or is my initial feeling on this site correct? This site is just set up by the ISP's themselves? That would be the only logical explaination to all these questions. Yes.....I use my connection a lot.....that's why I got high-speed. If you don't want to help me out that's OK.....I'll get info elsewhere.

wee96 · Post by **wee96** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 7:09 pm

COMPLETE idiot, im sorry I had to say it...

Originally posted by Vidiot
I had an FTP server set up for 2 of my friends to use. (Which I have now closed) Other than that most of the stuff was downloads.... But that's irrelevent really. I simply asked if there was a way around it. Or is my initial feeling on this site correct? This site is just set up by the ISP's themselves? That would be the only logical explaination to all these questions. Yes.....I use my connection a lot.....that's why I got high-speed. If you don't want to help me out that's OK.....I'll get info elsewhere.

Vidiot · Post by **Vidiot** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 7:16 pm

COMPLETE idiot, im sorry I had to say it...

LOL

My God....I was sharing some stuff with my friends......I guess I'm gonna burn in Hell. hehehe And me and Satan will trade files.

glc1 · Post by **glc1** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 8:02 pm

Originally posted by Vidiot
I had an FTP server set up for 2 of my friends to use. (Which I have now closed) Other than that most of the stuff was downloads.... But that's irrelevent really. I simply asked if there was a way around it. Or is my initial feeling on this site correct? This site is just set up by the ISP's themselves? That would be the only logical explaination to all these questions. Yes.....I use my connection a lot.....that's why I got high-speed. If you don't want to help me out that's OK.....I'll get info elsewhere.

You violated the AUP/TOS by running a server. Why do you think you should have the limits removed? My guess is they are implemented on your ISP's side or via the modem's configuration file, so there's no way around them.

Vidiot · Post by **Vidiot** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 8:35 pm

You violated the AUP/TOS by running a server. Why do you think you should have the limits removed? My guess is they are implemented on your ISP's side or via the modem's configuration file, so there's no way around them.

Um....there is a way around this....just wanted to hear your input. Thanks for the non-help help guys. And thanks for all the intrusive questions.

later peeps.

I spent a nice day in here. LOL

glc1 · Post by **glc1** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 8:53 pm

Originally posted by Vidiot

Um....there is a way around this....just wanted to hear your input.

If you already know the answer, why ask the question?

Vidiot · Post by **Vidiot** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 9:01 pm

If you already know the answer, why ask the question?

So you admit you lied by saying there's no way around it? Just be honest and say you don't want to give that info out.
BTW which Cable company do you work for?

Dakota · Post by **Dakota** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 9:07 pm

Geeze...we playing neener-neener here?

Vidiot · Post by **Vidiot** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 9:11 pm

LOL@ SilverDakota! This is getting fun! you guys are a riot! hehehehe

Vidiot · Post by **Vidiot** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 9:13 pm

Feel free to ban me at anytime.....unless you want this fun to continue! LOL

glc1 · Post by **glc1** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 9:21 pm

Originally posted by Vidiot

So you admit you lied by saying there's no way around it? Just be honest and say you don't want to give that info out.
BTW which Cable company do you work for?

Shows what you know, I don't work for a cable co.

Illini25 · Post by **Illini25** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 9:27 pm

This is getting gooooood.... lol

Dakota · Post by **Dakota** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 9:31 pm

Originally posted by Vidiot
LOL@ SilverDakota! This is getting fun! you guys are a riot! hehehehe

We love having fun here. This is a very cool community.

Vidiot · Post by **Vidiot** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 9:34 pm

Then let the games begin! LOL even if you give no info on this site besides a few speed tweeks.

CM Weaver · Post by **CM Weaver** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 10:40 pm

Originally posted by Vidiot
Then let the games begin! LOL even if you give no info on this site besides a few speed tweeks.

Ahhh what the hell, I'll jump in here. Isn't it your bedtime yet? Aren't you supposed to be in bed when the street lights come on?

Here's the bottom line Vidiot. You have violated the terms of a CONTRACT that YOU signed with your cable company. Sorry, but you can't plead ignorance now saying you didn't know there was a cap on the amount of data you can transfer.

Feel free to take them to court or whatever you feel is necessary, however, you agreed to the contract the second you signed on the dotted line. Contracts are binding, period. Unless the company has decieved you in some way or not provided everything stated in the contract they are within their rights to limit your connection.

If your unhappy with the speeds you get then sign up for a business account that will offer you the things you want. If it's too expensive for a business account then you must work within the terms of your current contract.

This is called life. If you don't like it move to another country where the rules are different or find another means of broadband. The people here are more than happy to help you with any problems you might be having, but the second you start being a smartass you've blacklisted yourself and will get no help here.

Vidiot · Post by **Vidiot** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 10:47 pm

Here's the bottom line Vidiot. You have violated the terms of a CONTRACT that YOU signed with your cable company. Sorry, but you can't plead ignorance now saying you didn't know there was a cap on the amount of data you can transfer.

When I signed up with my cable company they were advertising UNLIMITED internet access.

CM Weaver · Post by **CM Weaver** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 10:51 pm

Originally posted by Vidiot
When I signed up with my cable company they were advertising UNLIMITED internet access.

It also says that if you violate any of the TOS, i.e. running servers, then at their discretion can limit your connection.

Vidiot · Post by **Vidiot** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 10:56 pm

Sounds like a limitation to me.....
And they never said any thing about the server.....they were just pissed about all the downloads....

glc1 · Post by **glc1** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 10:59 pm

Originally posted by Vidiot
Sounds like a limitation to me.....
And they never said any thing about the server.....they were just pissed about all the downloads....

Service agreements aren't verbal. Have you actually read your provider's AUP/TOS, or at least checked to see how it outlined servers? I've never seen a residential cable ISP permit servers of any kind.

Vidiot · Post by **Vidiot** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 11:06 pm

Service agreements aren't verbal. Have you actually read your provider's AUP/TOS, or at least checked to see how it outlined servers? I've never seen a residential cable ISP permit servers of any kind.

Like I said....the server isn't the issue!!!! They were pissed about all the downloads! My server was just used by 2 friends for a few file transfers! The server is NOT the issue here! I signed up for UNLIMITED internet access and now they say it's limited to 5 gig......that's F\/cked.....

(and yes....I have checked the contract.....)

glc1 · Post by **glc1** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 11:09 pm

Originally posted by Vidiot

Like I said....the server isn't the issue!!!! They were pissed about all the downloads! My server was just used by 2 friends for a few file transfers! The server is NOT the issue here! I signed up for UNLIMITED internet access and now they say it's limited to 5 gig......that's ****ed.....

I'm sorry but the server is the only issue here. Servers are not permitted. You ran one and thus, violated the TOS/AUP, a legal agreement. You are now at your provider's mercy and so far I'd say they have been generous, being that you still have service.

Vidiot · Post by **Vidiot** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 11:14 pm

What the Hell are you talking about? They didn't say **** to me about my measly little server!!!!!!!!!! That is NOT the issue! GEEEEZ! Wake up dude!

Vidiot · Post by **Vidiot** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 11:15 pm

OK....now this is just getting annoying. LOL all agreed?

glc1 · Post by **glc1** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 11:19 pm

Originally posted by Vidiot
What the Hell are you talking about? They didn't say **** to me about my measly little server!!!!!!!!!! That is NOT the issue! GEEEEZ! Wake up dude!

I believe you're the one in a coma. Have you not been reading the previous posts? They (the ISP) are [/b]not[/b] required to verbably disclose the TOS/AUP. It's up to the customer to be aware of it and it's contents.

Vidiot · Post by **Vidiot** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 11:35 pm

Yes....and I was told UNLIMITED access.....which I foolishly assumed was the truth I guess......AND THE SERVER IS NOT THE ISSUE HERE!!!!!

glc1 · Post by **glc1** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 11:41 pm

Originally posted by Vidiot
Yes....and I was told UNLIMITED access.....which I foolishly assumed was the truth I guess......AND THE SERVER IS NOT THE ISSUE HERE!!!!!

You now what, I give up. You are obviously not keen on reading. You have no case here. You ISP acted within their rights and have not wronged you. Do and post as you wish.

Dakota · Post by **Dakota** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 11:42 pm

Scan the part of your AUP/TOS where it says unlimited and post a link to the image file here. That will settle it all.

Avalon66 · Post by **Avalon66** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 11:45 pm

I have been reading thise post for a bit and i have a few things to point out..
1# Vidiot does know what he did to get his connection limited ( thats not what he asking)
2# He asked if there is a way to get around it
3# All that happen was that he was hacked on because of it
4# People in glass house shouldnt throw stones, lets face it these board dont exacually do things that are legal here,, and why should we be hacking on him for doing somthing that we all do .. but he just does it better ,, BY THE GRACE OF GOD THERE GO I..
5# HIS QUESTION WAS STILL NOT ANSWERED,, AND PERSONALY I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO IT TOO.. ANYONE CARE TO ANSWER THIS VERY VERY SIMPLE QUESTION....

6# IN CASE YOU FORGOT WHAT THE QUESTION WAS.. HERE IT IS AGAIN

I have recently had my upload/download limits set to 1 gig up/5 gig down/month by my cable company due to "abuse of acceptable usage". They are now monitoring me daily. Damn....this is a non-connection to me. I have this great high-speed connection, and now I can't use it. Changing ISP's is not an option here. Does anyone know anyway around this? Any help will be appreciated,.

THANKS AVA

Vidiot · Post by **Vidiot** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 11:46 pm

Obviously you haven't been reading either. I had Cable installed when they were advertising unlimited internet access .....now they limit me. You can say all you want about contracts and stuff...but if they offer unlimited access, and then limit you, that's false advertising.....

Dakota · Post by **Dakota** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 11:52 pm

You failed to read the fine print in their advertisement. There's ALWAYS limitations. Always. You just learned a valuable lesson regarding that fact.

As to your original question: There probably is a way around it by hacking into your modem just like some other guys did to remove the speed caps. But, they also got busted, so it's really pointless to try and get around it because you'll get caught at that too and then you'll have no broadband as they will not want you again as a customer.

Do I personally know how to do it? No. Not at this moment, but I could find out that info within a short time. Will I? No, because I have no desire to go against my ISP's AUP and lose my access totally. Sometimes you just gotta play by the rules. It sucks sometimes, but that's life.

Vidiot · Post by **Vidiot** » Thu Apr 04, 2002 11:59 pm

You failed to read the fine print in their advertisement. There's ALWAYS limitations. Always. You just learned a valuable lesson regarding that fact.

But how can it be UNLIMITED with SOME limitations? That makes no sense, and is false advertising....and there was no fine print in the ad.

Anyway, thanks for finally admitting it's possible, but have no interest in finding the details. Finally, I got an honest answer here. This post went alot longer than it should have.....but it was fun non-the-less.

glc1 · Post by **glc1** » Fri Apr 05, 2002 12:16 am

Your wounds are self-inflicted.

The transer limits are the result of you violating the service agreement. Your provider had every right to implement those limits, regardless of what was advertised. Why is this so difficult for you to comprehend?

Vidiot · Post by **Vidiot** » Fri Apr 05, 2002 7:14 am

Your provider had every right to implement those limits, regardless of what was advertised. Why is this so difficult for you to comprehend?

That is not the issue here. I simply asked if there was a way around. I didn't ask why they cut me off, or if you think i deserved what I got. Why is that so difficult for YOU to comprehend?

zxc47 · Post by **zxc47** » Fri Apr 05, 2002 10:45 am

Vidiot :The ANSWER to you QUESTION is yes < you can download or up load past your limits But that not the problem. The problem is that they keep a log on every user not just you. They know every thing that take place on your IP and there is no way around that. You may think that running a server is not a issue but if you had not put a server on your IP they would not be able to limit your down loads and up loads . they put the limits on you to stop you from running a server,that all.So don't run a server or host any games for a few months and they will take the limit off.But try to run a server again they will cut you off or bill you for it
I know that it make you mad but think about all the other people that has to use the same line as you, I bet there mad to. they just don't know who to be mad at. they think it there ISP that bad.

glc1 · Post by **glc1** » Fri Apr 05, 2002 1:06 pm

Originally posted by Vidiot

That is not the issue here. I simply asked if there was a way around. I didn't ask why they cut me off, or if you think i deserved what I got. Why is that so difficult for YOU to comprehend?

That may have been your original question, but later on your acted as if you had been wronged by your ISP, which isn't the case. If you successfully "get around it", you'll get caught. I guess presume you wish to lose your service altogether?