I am curious why I can't get my temps as low as some people I see who overclock, have stock cpu fan and a couple case fans. I do not overclock, have the alpha 6045 cpu fan, a fan in the front and on the side bringing air in, an exhast fan in back, on top and a psu with 2 fans. My computer is an a7v133 with a 1.2 tbird. I have rounded ide cables and have tucked all the power cables and what not away pretty nicely. My temps usually run 40C and about 44C under full load. I know those aren't exactly bad temps but it confuses me how people can overclock and get better temps without any funky cooling techniques. Just curious if I am missing something.
Oh yeah, I am using artic silver II.
Computer temps
Me too so I know what you mean Only I`m running the 1.2Ghz T`bird on the ECS K7S5A and I`m currently on about 45-47 degrees C idle and about 50 full load.
The HSF I`m using is the Coolermaster HCC-002 but with the LOUD 6800rpm, 60 mm, 38cfm fan replaced with a 2700rpm, 80mm, 36cfm fan so a fraction of the noise for only a 2cfm loss.
I too am using Arctic Silver 2
The HSF I`m using is the Coolermaster HCC-002 but with the LOUD 6800rpm, 60 mm, 38cfm fan replaced with a 2700rpm, 80mm, 36cfm fan so a fraction of the noise for only a 2cfm loss.
I too am using Arctic Silver 2
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Anyways, It could be a combination of things. With my Copper heatsink and 7000rpm fan (which I must say as loud as a jet turbine and very powerful, had a grill on it to protect my fingers and cables.) I could only get to 45C idle and at full load I wouold hit 49-51C!! Drove me insane, but it's a cooling problem that the Athlon T-bird series has. Plus it also my old case, bad air circulation. Other then telling you to increase the CFm on the exhuast port fan( get a new one), not much else you can do.
Grandflash:
You have some nice temps for a 1.2ghz T-bird unclocked, so I wouldn't worry about that temperature, very cool. I'm surprised that the old Alpha PAL6035 is that good! (THe 6035 is the Socket mounted heatsink, don't think there is a PAL-6045 model, only a PAL8045, which mounts via the four holes on the motherboard.) Like I said above, get high rated CFM fans if you want cooler temps. Other then this, clean up the case a bit by making sure the cords aren't in any old jumble. If you can, get some Plastic cable zippers and make sure the Power supply cords are nice and together. Shouldn't cost you very much. Also, you could build a closed off vent shaft to direct the air from the CPU fan (If you have it blowing air away from the heatsink, instead of the blowing air onto it) and lead it to the Exhuast fan directly. That way you don't get a back lash of hot air circulating in the case. Having a cleaned up inside case is the key to having lower temperatures. One thing you didn't mention is the size of your case or what the background temperature in yoru area is! That matters as well! Alot of people get Server cases, which are roomy and have lots of fans working in tandem to keep the temps down. Others (like mine) have special side vents (which comes standard with the case) and allow for more air movement into and out of the case. Then again, I also have a Alpha PAL-8045 heatsink with a 68CFM delta 80mm fan inside on my CPU and I'm now hitting 35C as my idle and 43C full!
Caveman:
Put only a small drop of ASII onto the core of the CPU (Make sure the drop doesn't even come to any of the edges and isn't very large) and then just spread it out a bit with the end of the tube shaft. You can up the CFM on the fan to around 50CFM and the noise won't be so bad (no where near as bad as the Black Label Delta 7k RPM fan 60mm.)
.Anyways, It could be a combination of things. With my Copper heatsink and 7000rpm fan (which I must say as loud as a jet turbine and very powerful, had a grill on it to protect my fingers and cables.) I could only get to 45C idle and at full load I wouold hit 49-51C!! Drove me insane, but it's a cooling problem that the Athlon T-bird series has. Plus it also my old case, bad air circulation. Other then telling you to increase the CFm on the exhuast port fan( get a new one), not much else you can do.
Grandflash:
You have some nice temps for a 1.2ghz T-bird unclocked, so I wouldn't worry about that temperature, very cool. I'm surprised that the old Alpha PAL6035 is that good!
(THe 6035 is the Socket mounted heatsink, don't think there is a PAL-6045 model, only a PAL8045, which mounts via the four holes on the motherboard.) Like I said above, get high rated CFM fans if you want cooler temps. Other then this, clean up the case a bit by making sure the cords aren't in any old jumble. If you can, get some Plastic cable zippers and make sure the Power supply cords are nice and together. Shouldn't cost you very much. Also, you could build a closed off vent shaft to direct the air from the CPU fan (If you have it blowing air away from the heatsink, instead of the blowing air onto it) and lead it to the Exhuast fan directly. That way you don't get a back lash of hot air circulating in the case. Having a cleaned up inside case is the key to having lower temperatures. One thing you didn't mention is the size of your case or what the background temperature in yoru area is! That matters as well! Alot of people get Server cases, which are roomy and have lots of fans working in tandem to keep the temps down. Others (like mine) have special side vents (which comes standard with the case) and allow for more air movement into and out of the case. Then again, I also have a Alpha PAL-8045 heatsink with a 68CFM delta 80mm fan inside on my CPU and I'm now hitting 35C as my idle and 43C full! Caveman:
Put only a small drop of ASII onto the core of the CPU (Make sure the drop doesn't even come to any of the edges and isn't very large) and then just spread it out a bit with the end of the tube shaft. You can up the CFM on the fan to around 50CFM and the noise won't be so bad (no where near as bad as the Black Label Delta 7k RPM fan 60mm.)
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Like Terrance said Athlons run hot!
I to have the A7V133 w/a 1.4 TBird, runs hot as hell. I've tried everything but have come to accept it's just a hot running combo. I use a software solutation to help keep it cool. Check out VCool @ http://www.naggelgames.de/vcool/VCool.html works great!
For poper air flow it's pretty simple and straight foward.
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content ... /23794.pdf
Look at page 33
I to have the A7V133 w/a 1.4 TBird, runs hot as hell. I've tried everything but have come to accept it's just a hot running combo. I use a software solutation to help keep it cool. Check out VCool @ http://www.naggelgames.de/vcool/VCool.html works great!
For poper air flow it's pretty simple and straight foward.
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content ... /23794.pdf
Look at page 33
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Thanks for the tips, I am really not unhappy with my temps just curious about ways to make it better is all. Also, yes, the a7v133 is an Asus, sorry for not mentioning. I was unaware that they might be misrepresenting the temps, I'm gonna have to look into that. Hopefully if this is true it is reporting temps too high and not too low. As for the hsf, I just guessed at the model number because I couldn't remember what it was exactly, but yes it is the clip kind. I bought it about a year or so ago I believe. I have a mid tower case with precut holes in the middle of the side of the case above the motherboard and on the top of the case as well. I am still using the stock fans that came with the case.
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try wpcredit......dropped my temps quite a bit
i was at about 40c idle and 50 under a load........now i idle as low as 29 on the chip and hit upper 40c range under full load.
no noticeable performance hit at all!
AMP
try wpcredit......dropped my temps quite a bit
i was at about 40c idle and 50 under a load........now i idle as low as 29 on the chip and hit upper 40c range under full load.
no noticeable performance hit at all!
AMP
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