Networking for company
Networking for company
I m currently doing a school project where I have to set up a network for a company. Which requires me to purchase all the needed components. I m wondering what exactly do i need? I know i do need a server, 50 client computers, cables, lincensing fee for Microsoft product. What else do i need to get this system up and running?
Pretty simple in a basic mode.
50 comps times the bits needed to get 50 comps on the network. That takes care of the computers.
Now cabling, does yer virtual company have a floorplan? Yer gonna need to know how many feet of cable is needed. It is gonna be peer to peer, or a true sever setup? That will affect the computer set as well.
What kinda virtual work are these comps gonna be doing? That will alos affect the hardware requirments.
If its open ended type question, design the system first, write that down, so ya can show yer teacher why the harware was picked. If its yer setup, I really don't see how you could mess up. Come up with what O/S, software and what the comps are gonna be doing. Then start planning the setup, JUST MAKE SURE you have an idea of what the network is supposed to do...I.E. its purpose.
50 comps times the bits needed to get 50 comps on the network. That takes care of the computers.
Now cabling, does yer virtual company have a floorplan? Yer gonna need to know how many feet of cable is needed. It is gonna be peer to peer, or a true sever setup? That will affect the computer set as well.
What kinda virtual work are these comps gonna be doing? That will alos affect the hardware requirments.
If its open ended type question, design the system first, write that down, so ya can show yer teacher why the harware was picked. If its yer setup, I really don't see how you could mess up. Come up with what O/S, software and what the comps are gonna be doing. Then start planning the setup, JUST MAKE SURE you have an idea of what the network is supposed to do...I.E. its purpose.
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Hey man!
I just placed second on regional level of a group for a network design. If this thing gets graded...the more the marryer in detial! Look into cisco routers, switches, hubs and such. Get prices. Decide on what physical connection type you want. We used cat-5 100baset for nodes and fiberop for backbone between MDF and IDF's. NOw decide about security. We used ACLs for security.....once again...plan it out...get floorplans....everything is usefull on the grade!! HAVE FUN!
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I just placed second on regional level of a group for a network design. If this thing gets graded...the more the marryer in detial! Look into cisco routers, switches, hubs and such. Get prices. Decide on what physical connection type you want. We used cat-5 100baset for nodes and fiberop for backbone between MDF and IDF's. NOw decide about security. We used ACLs for security.....once again...plan it out...get floorplans....everything is usefull on the grade!! HAVE FUN!
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50 computers need advanced server?
you need 50 comps, 50 nics, 50 sets of cable a hub switch or router(depending on how much money you have to spare), software for comps(windows a server, 50 pro licenses a file server sql for a database), an admin print server, dns or dhcp server, or wins server, depending on how much info is accessed all day yopu might need a second domain controller at least one global catalog server, back up dhcp wins and dns servers in case one of those are down, you need a way to reduce replication traffic to minimize network traffic and the most important item needed on a network is of course counter-strike fo all to enjoy.
good luck.
good luck.
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First thing to do is contact the software company that this company is purchasing their primary software product, and work with them in designing the network. Design your network to be application driven...meaning built under the ideal specs that the software company likes their product to run under. Also build the server to be at least what they want to see (meaning do they want dual CPU's because it runs on some fat SQL database?) Also in the server, go with RAID 5 hard drive setup.
Something like Windows 2000 Small Business Server may be good, as it has built in SQL server, IIS5, Exchange 2000 for interoffice and public e-mail. Again, check with the software company, as you may find they have conflicts with some things and want their product to be ideally on a stand alone server.
Anti-virus product for the entire domain, something like Symantecs Corporate Edition, where the server downloads all the latest updates, and hands them out to all the clients as they log in. You can sit down at the server and monitor/scan your entire network from the management console. Check with the software company for compatibility again. Also if you run e-mail, the plug in for your e-mail server, like Exchange 2000 server plugin.
Backup solution....nice large DAT drive in the server, and check with the sofware company for which product they recommend to back up their product. Also which agents you need, like open file support, database agent (like SQL), agent for your e-mail server.
Battery Backups for your server and switch/router, like APC Smart Ups Pro 1400.
Switch, like a 3COM Super StackIII 3300 switch, 24 port 10/100, is around a thousand bucks.
Internet connection, could go with high speed business class DSL, 6000 down, 384 up, for about 190/month. You can get a more SOHO class router, like a Cisco, Netopia, SonicSOHO, or route it through Small Business Servers' firewall and ICS. Or a flavor of T-1 depending on budget.
Wiring, is it pre-existing? Or you do have to provide the wiring? If so, have a certified professional do it. Roughly 100 - 125 bucks per drop, but consider how the office is layed out, or some big plant, multiple desks close to each other in each room like a cubicle, or all individual office. Is the office large? Where the back is too far away for Cat5 wiring, so you'll need a fiber optic run from the front to the back, with a switch in the back. Fiber transeiver in the switch to the main switch to uplink the two.
Printers, get printers with the networking option, have drops for them, capture them from the server via TCP and share it from the server, let the server get the print jobs instead of jet admin from every workstation which adds tremendous network traffic.
Labor...figure a hundred bucks per hour, 12 hours to build the server, somewhere near an hour per workstation depending on how much you need to configure each one. Hopefully all the workstations are the exact same model computer, you can make one really nice image on one, configure it, install all your nice "optional software" like the latest Adobe, Winzip, windows updates, then ghost that image to all the others.
Just some stuff to start thinking about.
Something like Windows 2000 Small Business Server may be good, as it has built in SQL server, IIS5, Exchange 2000 for interoffice and public e-mail. Again, check with the software company, as you may find they have conflicts with some things and want their product to be ideally on a stand alone server.
Anti-virus product for the entire domain, something like Symantecs Corporate Edition, where the server downloads all the latest updates, and hands them out to all the clients as they log in. You can sit down at the server and monitor/scan your entire network from the management console. Check with the software company for compatibility again. Also if you run e-mail, the plug in for your e-mail server, like Exchange 2000 server plugin.
Backup solution....nice large DAT drive in the server, and check with the sofware company for which product they recommend to back up their product. Also which agents you need, like open file support, database agent (like SQL), agent for your e-mail server.
Battery Backups for your server and switch/router, like APC Smart Ups Pro 1400.
Switch, like a 3COM Super StackIII 3300 switch, 24 port 10/100, is around a thousand bucks.
Internet connection, could go with high speed business class DSL, 6000 down, 384 up, for about 190/month. You can get a more SOHO class router, like a Cisco, Netopia, SonicSOHO, or route it through Small Business Servers' firewall and ICS. Or a flavor of T-1 depending on budget.
Wiring, is it pre-existing? Or you do have to provide the wiring? If so, have a certified professional do it. Roughly 100 - 125 bucks per drop, but consider how the office is layed out, or some big plant, multiple desks close to each other in each room like a cubicle, or all individual office. Is the office large? Where the back is too far away for Cat5 wiring, so you'll need a fiber optic run from the front to the back, with a switch in the back. Fiber transeiver in the switch to the main switch to uplink the two.
Printers, get printers with the networking option, have drops for them, capture them from the server via TCP and share it from the server, let the server get the print jobs instead of jet admin from every workstation which adds tremendous network traffic.
Labor...figure a hundred bucks per hour, 12 hours to build the server, somewhere near an hour per workstation depending on how much you need to configure each one. Hopefully all the workstations are the exact same model computer, you can make one really nice image on one, configure it, install all your nice "optional software" like the latest Adobe, Winzip, windows updates, then ghost that image to all the others.
Just some stuff to start thinking about.
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Stoney u the man fancy doing my networking coursework for me?
cant afford $100 an hour tho
w2k server,w2k workstation
cat5 UTP setup wired as a star
find POP put server near as possible then draw arc on floorplan set at 85ms (max cable run) this is were u gonna need extra hubs for workstations, use dhcp reserving IPs for print servers etc
keep wiring away from things that will give electrical interferance
thats all i can add
cant afford $100 an hour tho
w2k server,w2k workstation
cat5 UTP setup wired as a star
find POP put server near as possible then draw arc on floorplan set at 85ms (max cable run) this is were u gonna need extra hubs for workstations, use dhcp reserving IPs for print servers etc
keep wiring away from things that will give electrical interferance
thats all i can add
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A word of advice
Make all of your clients Windows 2000 Profesional if you can not Windows 98. It's much easier to support...i.e. deploy software, make changes, terminal server sessions...etc, across the network, instead of having to visit each machine....
Just a thought
Alex
Just a thought
Alex
A_S was reading my mind. Win2K w/Term Services (or Citrix if you can splurge). You can pick up wyse winterms for about $370 a pop and run sessions. Your major consideration would be server horsepower then.
The lower client hardware cost allows you to put that money in to the licensing (around $5400 for 50 CALs, more than reasonable considering the $300 avg. you would save per box). There is no way around the licensing issue, unless you run Win2K Pro on the client, which includes a CAL. But you would lose the hardware savings gained by using winterms.
If you use Win98, those clients are supposed to have connection licenses to access Win2K server.
In a more centralized environment, administration is much easier. For example, antivirus software only need be installed on the server. No bother with supporting clients.
Another benefit of the thin client solution is the control you can exert over the end user experience. You can remove all of the programs and settings that, when changed by click happy users, result in support calls. You are also able to group users or machines (or both) in units and apply as liberal or as restrictive a policy as you desire.
With this type of solution, you really need to your homework ;}
(I couldn't resist)
The lower client hardware cost allows you to put that money in to the licensing (around $5400 for 50 CALs, more than reasonable considering the $300 avg. you would save per box). There is no way around the licensing issue, unless you run Win2K Pro on the client, which includes a CAL. But you would lose the hardware savings gained by using winterms.
If you use Win98, those clients are supposed to have connection licenses to access Win2K server.
In a more centralized environment, administration is much easier. For example, antivirus software only need be installed on the server. No bother with supporting clients.
Another benefit of the thin client solution is the control you can exert over the end user experience. You can remove all of the programs and settings that, when changed by click happy users, result in support calls. You are also able to group users or machines (or both) in units and apply as liberal or as restrictive a policy as you desire.
With this type of solution, you really need to your homework ;}
(I couldn't resist)