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TriDenTL · Post by **TriDenTL** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 4:41 pm

well is there any you could reccomend or is it you dont want to beaucause i have mentioned cablenut????????????

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 4:49 pm

Anyone's patch other than ours:

RWIN's
To prevent problems in the future I will only recommend RWIN's to people who have Speedguide's speed patch installed, common sense dictates that most setting's in a patch are centered around the RWIN they use, Speedguide uses mostly Windows default settings so I am willing to try different RWIN's, I do not know how they work with other patchs, so please have Speedguide's speed patch in, directions on help thread below in signature.

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 4:51 pm

Stay on same thread please, just click on post reply at bottom, thanks

Buggyman · Post by **Buggyman** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 4:58 pm

I understand you fusteration...
But a good way to tell about Rwins is to run the speedguide test and look at the results.
The test will show some suggested RWIN you can use.
nothing wrong with Cablenuts CCS because all it does is allows you to put whatever settings you want without having to get into your registery.
What we do is put in an Rwin setting and then run some speed tests to see what kind of impact it makes.
Some do great with high RWIN and some do better with low ones.
You be the judge.
thanks

TriDenTL · Post by **TriDenTL** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 5:01 pm

hi your link on my help thread is not working if i go to your patch page and download win98 speedpatch and install then test with your analiser ..will that be it?

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 5:04 pm

Works fine on mine, in my signature, Help Thread & Tips

TriDenTL · Post by **TriDenTL** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 5:08 pm

hey lobo & buggyman i,m new to twakin cable modem but thanx for you suggestion,s i will just keep tryin ......and why do i allways get the feeling that american,s misunderstand me afterall i,m asking you the question....lol @ chu

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 5:16 pm

Try it again

TriDenTL · Post by **TriDenTL** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 5:17 pm

if you try ya link http://www.speedguide.net/cable mod...e patches.shtml i think you will find it is a broken link....you stand corrected....thankYOU

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 5:28 pm

Sorry, it's working now, don't know what happened to it

TriDenTL · Post by **TriDenTL** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 5:37 pm

which 1 should i dl? ..ie .....patch the generic one or pppoe?

TriDenTL · Post by **TriDenTL** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 5:45 pm

i am connected using cable tv box downstairs with rj45 x over cable to 10-100 ethernet card pci when i boot windows i am prompted to enter a password to log on im not sure which patch to dl sorry about this m8

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 5:49 pm

I have to see what your MTU is to tell you which, I hope Cablenut is installed

Please click in my signature where it says Test tweak here, then:
At top where it says edit click and select, Select all,
Then go back to same edit button at top, click and select copy.
Come back to Speedguide, same thread you were on, in post reply box, with cursor blinking at begining of box go to top, edit, click, select paste, click, this will put information in box. Please X out your IP address, Thank you.

Patch's , a very simple way to do this is to first download Cablenuts adjuster that comes with his software, you must download and install his software first as it takes out any prior patches and sends that part of your registry back to default values, just download and install software, thats it
plus it is alot easier to tweak with adjuster rather than going into registry. ( DOWNLOAD CABLENUT SOFTWARE FIRST)
A.) Download and install Cablenut software

TriDenTL · Post by **TriDenTL** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 6:00 pm

TCP options string = 020405b40103030101010402

MTU = 1500
MTU is fully optimized for broadband.

MSS = 1460
Maximum useful data in each packet = 1460, which is equal to MSS.

Default Receive Window (RWIN) = 128480
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 1 bits
Unscaled Receive Window = 64240
RWIN is a multiple of MSS
Other values for RWIN that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
513920 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 8)
256960 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 4)
64240 (MSS x 44)

bandwidth * delay product:
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 5139.2 kbps (642.4 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 2055.68 kbps (256.96 KBytes/s) @ 500ms

MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = ON

Time to live left = 31 hops
TTL value is ok.

Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF

Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = ON

IP type of service field

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 6:10 pm

Before you do any thing you need to bring up Cablenuts adjuster, click on delete Cablenut tweaks and reboot, this takes that part of registry back to default, this is patch you need: sguide_tweak_98_ME , your speed test needs to be done over there closer to you, you can find some at http://www.testmyspeed.com

TriDenTL · Post by **TriDenTL** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 6:28 pm

Your throughput 69690 cps

Typical ISDN 64K 7500 cps

Typical ISDN 128K 15000 cps

Typical 10M Ethernet 480000 cps

i tested it in uk these r the results

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 6:30 pm

Have you installed SG's patch's

TriDenTL · Post by **TriDenTL** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 6:35 pm

sguide_tweak_98.inf i have installed this patch

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 6:36 pm

Please click in my signature where it says Test tweak here, then:
At top where it says edit click and select, Select all,
Then go back to same edit button at top, click and select copy.
Come back to Speedguide, same thread you were on, in post reply box, with cursor blinking at begining of box go to top, edit, click, select paste, click, this will put information in box. Please X out your IP address, Thank you.

TriDenTL · Post by **TriDenTL** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 6:41 pm

SpeedGuide.net TCP/IP Analyzer
TCP properties for IP =
Note: Read the FAQ if the above is not your IP address.
Browser/OS = Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)

TCP options string = 020405b40103030201010402

MTU = 1500
MTU is fully optimized for broadband.

MSS = 1460
Maximum useful data in each packet = 1460, which is equal to MSS.

Default Receive Window (RWIN) = 256960
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 2 bits
Unscaled Receive Window = 64240
RWIN is a multiple of MSS
Other values for RWIN that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
513920 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 8)
128480 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 2)
64240 (MSS x 44)

bandwidth * delay product:
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 10278.4 kbps (1284.8 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 4111.36 kbps (513.92 KBytes/s) @ 500ms

MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = ON

Time to live left = 47 hops
TTL value is ok.

Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF

Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = ON

IP type of service field (RFC1349)= 00000000

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 6:43 pm

You want to keep number that is fastest for you:

For Win 9x bring up Cablenuts adjuster inside icon on desktop in box that says Cablenut,click on adjuster, in box that says DefaultRvcWindow take out number that is in there and put in one of these, 1 at a time, try: 513920, 522680, 524176, 531440

Leave GlobalMaxTcpWindowSize blank
You do not have to show me but check analyzer here at SG to make sure RWIN is in, you will see number right after (RWIN) on analyzer
At bottom click save to registry, and REBOOT each time you change value in adjuster or it will not work.Click on tools at top of IE, internet options, delete files and offline files (This is safe, temp files) and click on clear history after EVERY test Fast speed test here
Speedtest may open another browser, so check taskbar and close other one, no other programs should be running, No AIM, ICQ, Virus scanner, Firewall, nothing

TriDenTL · Post by **TriDenTL** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 8:02 pm

i have tested several sites against my speed ...one loaded 2,031 k bytes in 2.91 secs my throughput is 5720 ....this seems to be even worse can you help i,m somewhat confused now?

TriDenTL · Post by **TriDenTL** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 8:08 pm

when i boot windows i am prompted for a network password...

TriDenTL · Post by **TriDenTL** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 8:46 pm

i havejust tested my connection at several uk sites through the mlink you pasted on that thread page 4 results at differant sites each time i tested i cleared my history and cookies test 1large graphic 470kbytes my throughput 71340cps
test 2 your internet speed at the moment is 11961 bytes per second throughput of 108kilo bits a sec
test 3 loaded 2,013kbytes in 2.91secs your throughput is 572.0kbps
test 4 another says my
approximate connection is 90.9 kbytes a second this is confusing me it sounds conflicting ..........here is the results from your analizer SpeedGuide.net TCP/IP Analyzer
TCP properties for IP =
Note: Read the FAQ if the above is not your IP address.
Browser/OS = Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)

TCP options string = 020405b40103030201010402

MTU = 1500
MTU is fully optimized for broadband.

MSS = 1460
Maximum useful data in each packet = 1460, which is equal to MSS.

Default Receive Window (RWIN) = 256960
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 2 bits
Unscaled Receive Window = 64240
RWIN is a multiple of MSS
Other values for RWIN that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
513920 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 8)
128480 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 2)
64240 (MSS x 44)

bandwidth * delay product:
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 10278.4 kbps (1284.8 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 4111.36 kbps (513.92 KBytes/s) @ 500ms

MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = ON

Time to live left = 47 hops
TTL value is ok.

Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF

Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = ON

IP type of service field (RFC1349)= 00000000

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 8:48 pm

Nothing has changed, did you save to registry and reboot everytime

TriDenTL · Post by **TriDenTL** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 8:49 pm

yes i did m8

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 8:59 pm

Why is above test the same as when we started, I don't even know if first time you tested you changed anything, you should allways check analyzer here at SG after changing RWIN to make sure you did, go back to first set of numbers, put one in, save and reboot or it will not work

Buggyman · Post by **Buggyman** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 9:48 pm

He said ....

hi m8 im using windows 98 oem with all relevent updates from microsoft

hey lobo & buggyman i,m new to twakin cable modem

i am connected using cable tv box downstairs with rj45 x over cable to 10-100 ethernet card pci when i boot windows i am prompted to enter a password to log on

He said he has to log on when he starts the computer... What he is refering to is the Network logon, which is standard for windows with a network card when you boot up your PC.
I belive he said a while back he was on cable. so there is no log on with cable.
He's done everything he can on his end other than try the differance Rwin's to see which one gives him the best speeds.
So if he hasn't already he needs to find out what his provider is set at and then expect around 80% of that speed.
It's that simple.

TriDenTL · Post by **TriDenTL** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 10:22 pm

look imwith ntl world they installed a cable connection via fibre optic cabling which comes into my property and connects to a pace digital box on the rear of the box i run a rj45 x over cable which is 10 meters in length to a net lynx 10-100 ethernet card which is pci. ntl states that my connection is a 512k ...they also tell me it is on all the time ok.now im running windows 98 oem with all the relevant updates from microsoft i have norton antivirus and norton internet security loading by default at startup i would like to know why it is so much messing about to tweak a connection when tweakin a cpu is straight forward and there is a set logical way of going about tweakin a cpu can you just give me a allround good reg values and i then can enter them manually through the cablenut manual interface?is there any thing i can do to restore my windows reg to the default settings and then reapply the optimum reg tweaks? you,s gratefully ............TriDenT$@L manchester uk :2cool:

TriDenTL · Post by **TriDenTL** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 11:06 pm

look i deleted all the reg values through cablenut ithen rebooted i then installed your sguide_tweak_98.inf and rebooted again now i have just used your analizer and these are the results can you please answer this post it,s the last just give me some good values to try in the defaultrcvwindow respecT TriDenT$@L

SpeedGuide.net TCP/IP Analyzer
TCP properties for IP =trident$@l
Note: Read the FAQ if the above is not your IP address.
Browser/OS = Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)

TCP options string = 020405b40103030201010402

MTU = 1500
MTU is fully optimized for broadband.

MSS = 1460
Maximum useful data in each packet = 1460, which is equal to MSS.

Default Receive Window (RWIN) = 256960
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 2 bits
Unscaled Receive Window = 64240
RWIN is a multiple of MSS
Other values for RWIN that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
513920 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 8)
128480 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 2)
64240 (MSS x 44)

bandwidth * delay product:
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 10278.4 kbps (1284.8 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 4111.36 kbps (513.92 KBytes/s) @ 500ms

MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = ON

Time to live left = 47 hops
TTL value is ok.

Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF

Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = ON

IP type of service field (RFC1349)= 00000000

Buggyman · Post by **Buggyman** » Thu Sep 06, 2001 12:17 am

Lobo is gone for the night I believe.
He'll be back in the morning I'm sure.
ok here's the deal...
the only thing you need to do any more.. wether you use the cableNut or speedguide patch... is to research which Rwin's works best for your situation.
We can't tell you.. every PC and Provider is differance.
Once we get a PC set to be adjustable as you are now.. we basicly mess around with the Rwins.
That Speedguide test you took is pretty much tells you which ones you have to choose from.
the one you posted above gives you these options.

Other values for RWIN that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
513920
128480
64240

You have 256960 as your Rwin now.
Now this part...

bandwidth * delay product:
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 10278.4 kbps (1284.8 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 4111.36 kbps (513.92 KBytes/s) @ 500ms

tell you what YOUR PC CAN DO ONLY IF THE SO CALLED "HANDSHAKE" between your pc and the sites it goes to will allow it. (very seldom this happens)

So in a nutshell.. you play around with the differance Rwins and run speedtests to see which one works best for you. as I said... no two pc are alike.
Hope this clears some things up.

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Fri Sep 07, 2001 9:30 am

This may help you Right here

SG Broadband Community

darn

damn

TriDenT$@L

speed patch

your link to "my help thread"

WHICH PATCH SHOULD I DL?

pppoe

here is the test results

test results

the patch i installed

results from your tester

MY CONNECTION

reply

hi there

What's so confusing?

lo again

R U THERE LOBO

TriDenT$@L