AVG Antivirus and the w32.spybot.worm

Dark_Regent · Post by **Dark_Regent** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 2:01 pm

Ok folks I was a proud supporter of AVG untill I discovered that I had 499 instances of the w32.spybot.worm On my desktop that AVG had missed. I am now back to useing norton and virus free.

mnosteele52 · Post by **mnosteele52** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 6:44 pm

Kaspersky

Dark_Regent · Post by **Dark_Regent** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 7:53 pm

mnosteele52 wrote:Kaspersky

I tried it once. Bogged my pc down way to much. And I also had to do some special settings just to get it to work.

Respice · Post by **Respice** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:59 pm

I also tried Kaspersy but was unable to get a Network connection with it installed. I had to uninstall just to access my network.

mnosteele52 · Post by **mnosteele52** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:46 am

Respice wrote:I also tried Kaspersy but was unable to get a Network connection with it installed. I had to uninstall just to access my network.

It's a simple setting to uncheck to allow LAN traffic, KAV offers an option to make you invisible on a LAN and block all LAN traffic.

Shinobi · Post by **Shinobi** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:15 am

Dark_Regent wrote:Ok folks I was a proud supporter of AVG untill I discovered that I had 499 instances of the w32.spybot.worm On my desktop that AVG had missed. I am now back to useing norton and virus free.

I have always said, it is a good practice to use 2 anti-virus programs.
I use Norton as my primary "resident" program and AVG as a secondary scan, and not resident.
I also use the online virus scanner "housecall" from trend micro's site.
Housecall

Shinobi

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:26 am

Kapaskry is good i like the real time scanning with any antivirus shinobi is right alwas have a second one handy some detect better some clean better or virus versa

mnosteele52 · Post by **mnosteele52** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:28 am

Shinobi wrote:I have always said, it is a good practice to use 2 anti-virus programs.
I use Norton as my primary "resident" program and AVG as a secondary scan, and not resident.
I also use the online virus scanner "housecall" from trend micro's site.
Housecall

Shinobi

I have to disagree with that Shinobi, personally I think it's one of the worst things you can do. Most all of the time it causes some type of conflict, besides, these days there are many free online scanners that you can scan with if you need to.

Kaspersky Webscan

Trendmicro Housecall

Panda Activescan

Symantec Security Check

BitDefender Online

McAfee FreeScan

Command On Demand

F-Secure Online

Arcabit Online

On top of those there is also Jotti's Online Malware Scan that allows you to upload a single file that is scanned in seconds by 14 different antivirus programs.

:2cool:

Shinobi · Post by **Shinobi** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:41 pm

mnosteele52 wrote:I have to disagree with that Shinobi, personally I think it's one of the worst things you can do. Most all of the time it causes some type of conflict, besides, these days there are many free online scanners that you can scan with if you need to.

Your correct

That's why I said in my previous post, that I use Norton as a resident program and AVG a a second or non-resident program. I should of probally said, Norton for Real Time protection and AVG as just a manual scanner.

I had both programs set up like this for a while now, and had no conflicts, in regarding to AVG's resident portion being "off" and isn't scanning in "real time".

I do like AVG's Scan Engine, I find it picks up some script viruses better then Norton, and it also scans inside more compressed file formats then Norton does.
Like WinZip's.exe files, InstallShield.exe files and Win-RAR's..

Shinobi

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:03 pm

Nod32

Futurama_fan · Post by **Futurama_fan** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:50 am

I used Kaspersky, but I didn't like it at all. Because my computer started run more slowly,
Personally I use Privecy Expert (with DrWeb as antivirus) on my computer and it's sufficient to me. Because It successfully protect my PC and It runs normal!

If you want you can check up your computer online and compare:

Housecall at TrendMicro

Make sure you tick Auto Clean

eTrust Antivirus Web Scanner

Free online SpywareCkecker

RAV Antivirus Online Scan
http://www.ravantivirus.com/scan

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:07 am

Great Thread!

I also dumped AVG after the online version of Trendmicro found some viruses that AVG never picked up on and really pisst me off. In fact one was a keylogger and I even saw the text file that stored all my username and passwords. I have no clue if it got out anywhere. I guess you get what you pay for?

I also saw this report and AVG did horrible on test on detecting new viruses in the wild:

http://www.av-comparatives.org/

So after seeing that I am giving NOD32 a 30 day trial. So far it is very good, I dont see a huge resource impact, a little bit more then AVG, but i rather have something protect me.

I would like to use a free one, but I wont take a chance anymore when it comes to virus and trojans and backdoors

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:35 pm

Ghosthunter wrote:
So after seeing that I am giving NOD32 a 30 day trial. So far it is very good, I dont see a huge resource impact, a little bit more then AVG, but i rather have something protect me.

You should like it..a lot, and find it actually quite lighter than AVG 7.

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:35 pm

YeOldeStonecat wrote:You should like it..a lot, and find it actually quite lighter than AVG 7.

I'm using Clamwin at home. It's free.

loop2kil · Post by **loop2kil** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:32 pm

No one mentioned Avast...anyone have any good/bad experiences with it? I just started using it and seems to be working ok. I dont get many virus' attacks anyway but so far it runs pretty smoothly.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:26 am

For the freebie antivirus list, I prefer AVG over Avast.

Croc · Post by **Croc** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:17 pm

Ghosthunter wrote:Great Thread!

I also dumped AVG after the online version of Trendmicro found some viruses that AVG never picked up on and really pisst me off. In fact one was a keylogger and I even saw the text file that stored all my username and passwords. I have no clue if it got out anywhere. I guess you get what you pay for?

I also saw this report and AVG did horrible on test on detecting new viruses in the wild:

http://www.av-comparatives.org/

So after seeing that I am giving NOD32 a 30 day trial. So far it is very good, I dont see a huge resource impact, a little bit more then AVG, but i rather have something protect me.

I would like to use a free one, but I wont take a chance anymore when it comes to virus and trojans and backdoors

How testing can vary then GH.
The site you linked had AVG down to 4%.

yet

this one gives AVG a top rating.
ISCA also give it 100% as does VBulletin. (click the links @ the Grisoft

Somewhere there must be a reason for three "testing" facilities to get results so different to the one you posted. They were using "Zoo" strains that are not out in the wild or causing any problems at the moment. Interesting concept and one that must affect the performance testing negatively.

Are we as consumers expecting too much from these protection programs??
An antivirus program used to protect your system from virus infection. Now we expect it to take care of our worm infections, keyloggers, trojans, and all manner of nasties that were not part of the original concept. It's no wonder these programs are "bloated" "slow running" "resource hogs" that congest our systems and make our computing experience less pleasurable than it used to be.
Just a thought.

Croc.

thepieman · Post by **thepieman** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:32 pm

The one thing and its very important to me, that I didn't like about NOD32 was their support. I was an authorized reseller for them and they never even bothered to answer my tech questions. If they did that to me, then I can imagine what they'd do to my customers.

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 6:17 pm

Croc wrote:How testing can vary then GH.
The site you linked had AVG down to 4%.

yet

this one gives AVG a top rating.
ISCA also give it 100% as does VBulletin. (click the links @ the Grisoft

Somewhere there must be a reason for three "testing" facilities to get results so different to the one you posted. They were using "Zoo" strains that are not out in the wild or causing any problems at the moment. Interesting concept and one that must affect the performance testing negatively.

Are we as consumers expecting too much from these protection programs??
An antivirus program used to protect your system from virus infection. Now we expect it to take care of our worm infections, keyloggers, trojans, and all manner of nasties that were not part of the original concept. It's no wonder these programs are "bloated" "slow running" "resource hogs" that congest our systems and make our computing experience less pleasurable than it used to be.
Just a thought.

Croc.

I dont know who is accurate or not, but it was enough for me to see that i had a keylogger and i can even see the text file with all of my information..that alone was enough to scare me to decide to get something else. Who knows maybe NOD32 would have missed something else. Right now I am happy with performance of NOD32, so will see. They seem to have a lot more updates then AVG does at this moment so I dont know.

P.S. looking at those other links dont really tell me much about the test results they juat say pass/fail, I like that AV comparative they actually show which type what kind of viruses and the percentage that got through. Unless i just not finding the links right for icsa and vbulletin

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 8:01 pm

thepieman wrote:The one thing and its very important to me, that I didn't like about NOD32 was their support. I was an authorized reseller for them and they never even bothered to answer my tech questions. If they did that to me, then I can imagine what they'd do to my customers.

Really? They have been good to me with info on pricing and answering questions. I think I have also sent two unknown viruses to them as well.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 11:01 am

thepieman wrote:The one thing and its very important to me, that I didn't like about NOD32 was their support. I was an authorized reseller for them and they never even bothered to answer my tech questions. If they did that to me, then I can imagine what they'd do to my customers.

Huh...the one single I had with their product last year, I e-mailed my rep, their support called my cellphone that afternoon. The issue was a compatibility with their version at that time last year (1.9X or something)...with a yacht broker client of mine who uses Act2000 as their primary e-mail client. They told me the adjustments to make, and since version 2 and now 2.5 the compatiblity issue is gone anyways.

To me, that was top notch service. One e-mail, a few hours later my cell phone was ringing.

Also, Esets official forums are located here:
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/index.php?
Much of their staff hang out on this forum, and they have a special NOD32 resellers forum within these forums that you can sign up for. Excellent info and help here.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 11:13 am

Croc wrote:H
Are we as consumers expecting too much from these protection programs??
An antivirus program used to protect your system from virus infection. Now we expect it to take care of our worm infections, keyloggers, trojans, and all manner of nasties that were not part of the original concept. It's no wonder these programs are "bloated" "slow running" "resource hogs" that congest our systems and make our computing experience less pleasurable than it used to be.
Just a thought.

Croc.

We're seeing a merging of these products into one package. NOD32 now calls itself a protection against "threats"...NOD32 and Kapersky aren't just "antivirus" products anymore.

I used to load up clients machines with antivirus, and a whole slew of anti-ad/spy/malware programs...taking a shotgun approach. Now that I've switched over to NOD32 for over a year, it's very light running (under 20 megs for running processes), and I don't have to use as many other programs...like I used to always install Spywareblaster also..but NOD32's IMON feature is so effective, I don't need as much additional protection. So it's lighter than just about all other antivirus apps out there, has better protection, and no need to bog down the computer with as many other anti-malware products.

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:17 pm

YeOldeStonecat wrote:We're seeing a merging of these products into one package. NOD32 now calls itself a protection against "threats"...NOD32 and Kapersky aren't just "antivirus" products anymore.

I used to load up clients machines with antivirus, and a whole slew of anti-ad/spy/malware programs...taking a shotgun approach. Now that I've switched over to NOD32 for over a year, it's very light running (under 20 megs for running processes), and I don't have to use as many other programs...like I used to always install Spywareblaster also..but NOD32's IMON feature is so effective, I don't need as much additional protection. So it's lighter than just about all other antivirus apps out there, has better protection, and no need to bog down the computer with as many other anti-malware products.

I am very impressed with the IMON feature. I really thought it would slow down my web browsing.

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:53 pm

Ghosthunter wrote:I am very impressed with the IMON feature. I really thought it would slow down my web browsing.

It can lock out links from a proxy server..........