General tweaking info.........

helloimtim · Post by **helloimtim** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 1:40 pm

Just a few pointers I have leared over the years about tweaking both dsl and windows xp. Tweaking dsl could make you slower. Seems like with my dsl leaving with xp default is by far the best. Lord knows I have tried every program out there. Every computer in my humble opinion is diffrent. If I put service pack 2 on mine it makes my machine slower?? Yes I have tried all the tricks and hacks. Messing with page fileing is a huge mistake. Sooner or later your machine will crash!! Dont care what anyone says its a fact!! There is no magic tweak or setting that will make your computer that much faster. The diffrence a tweak will make for the most part will be small at best. Alot of times the tweak will slow your puter or crash it. With dsl it does help unplug your modem wait a few min turn off your computer. Plug back in the modeum and turn on your computer. That does help alot. Keep all your programs backed up to disk. I have hit the "o well darn" button countless times. The ol well darn button is the one you hit when xp ask if you forsure you want to make that chage you click yes and your computer turns to garbage and you have to reload xp lmao. Thats how ya learn. What tweak works on one computer may turn yours to garbage. Dont drive yourself crazy thinking a magic tweak is out there. Its not!! Worse comes to worse reload windows. Just my humble opinion. Thank you for your time........peace.....im out

Post by **Philip** » Wed Dec 15, 2004 10:59 am

Nice rant

Still, there are tweaks that have proven to help millions of people get the best of their systems... They have been proven in both real-world tests and in theory. For example, if you turn off the "Indexing Service" you're obviously reducing the load on your hard drive and CPU, making them available for more useful tasks. There is nothing obscure or strange about it, simply a choice, fine tunning of your machine to your needs.

If you feel more comfortable with every choice MS has made for you, then indeed, you don't want to tweak your system. It's for the more adventurous that want to learn what choices they have, and make an educated decision on what works best for them.

Just my 2¢

Ph.

MadDoctor · Post by **MadDoctor** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 7:49 pm

Philip wrote:Nice rant

Still, there are tweaks that have proven to help millions of people get the best of their systems... They have been proven in both real-world tests and in theory. For example, if you turn off the "Indexing Service" you're obviously reducing the load on your hard drive and CPU, making them available for more useful tasks. There is nothing obscure or strange about it, simply a choice, fine tunning of your machine to your needs.

If you feel more comfortable with every choice MS has made for you, then indeed, you don't want to tweak your system. It's for the more adventurous that want to learn what choices they have, and make an educated decision on what works best for them.

Just my 2¢

Ph.

I agree.

helloimtim · Post by **helloimtim** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 3:24 am

There are tons of people that get faster computers with tweaks here and there. I guess I should of said dont expect much at all of a diffrence out of the tweak and be ready incase it all turns xp to garbage. I have seen alot of people drive themselfs crazy tweaking this and that and upset it didnt work like others had said it worked. In short if you tweak be prepaired just in case it turns to xp bad or you notice no diffrence. To many people seem to expect way to much with a few registry changes. They get really bent out of shape when it makes things worse. Seems kinda funny. They want to tweak but dont want to bother backing up the registry or there programs. Just my humble oppinion for what its worth and what seems like alot of people get upset about that I hear from........peace........im out

V_LESTAT · Post by **V_LESTAT** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 12:44 pm

ive never heard of it crashing XP,, i cant really see a tcp/ip tweak crashing your system seems like maybe your doing more than registry tweaks.

if your running ram drives or other oddball tweaks DONT.

stick with simple barebones dsl tweaks.

i for one agree with everything else you've said. i have seen one person, outside of here say that these tweaks helped, and in fact have seen just as many say it makes it worse, i am one of those.

i love this place and frequently throw my 2 cents worth in if someone is asking for tweaks. but the fact remains that windows XP default settings for cable are gunna be the best your gunna get, if you get better,, well, thats not windows people, thats the jacked up settings your ISP is using with your modem. yes you tweaked it and ran faster, but its not windows,

dsl i have never used, and not sure i want to from some of the horror stories ive seen. but cable has its darkside too.

ive been on cable with Windows 98 ME 2k XP XP64 bit Longhorn and all flavors of server OS's and Linux and not once did any of these tweaks help, and in fact they made it worse.

the only tweak im interested in is one that works for better gaming latency. but that again may be my router, im curently looking for an upgrade in that department.

i think we all know that 90% of the people in the world would find no gain and even a loss if they tweaked their network. its those other 10% who have ISP's throwing wierd settings to their dsl and cable modems who are gunna possibly benefit.

i refuse to use the tweaks here but i love reading about them and learning.
so use them or not this is still a great place.
and i was here when cablenut and some of the others first did the ramdrive tweak and cablenut program first came about.

times of discovery are what make places like this worth having.

mnosteele52 · Post by **mnosteele52** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:32 pm

Sorry but I have to say it........ you guys don't have a clue what you are talking about.

If tweaking doesn't help then why do clients pay me to optimize their systems ard are amazed at the difference I can make...... by TWEAKING!!!!!

V_LESTAT · Post by **V_LESTAT** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 5:49 pm

steele i highly doubt that statement. you're lucky if you get a 10-15% increase at best.. small lans maybe more but larger lans nah the network is so bloated the tweak isnt going to result in much. windows already is set for about the best speeds that its gunna get. and many times the tweak can be done in the nic properties not with reg tweaks. or simply setting up their server properly. or getting a server that can handle the load, same for routers and switches.

dude ive NEVER EVER in the 4 years i been coming here talked ot 1 single person who had any of them tweaks work and in fact most all say it makes it WORSE.
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its the server that ultimately needs tweaked. and even then, nah you gettingpayed for tweaking is simply a companies own laziness and IT dept's retardedness for not going out to google and searching for lan tweaks.

the only network that would benefit from any type of tweaking would be rather large bloated networks that arent adminstrated and setup properly., cheap hardware, badly or cheaply coded drivers. routers and switches that arent set up properly or crappy firmware.

i would love to see some sort of proof, as in REAL results, cuz i can say i tweaked my buddies pc and it went thru the roof.

and besides LAN tweaking is a horse of a different color. VERY VERY different settings are used for LAN's. they arent limited and controlled like cable or dsl.
they can be if the server wanted them to be but lan browsing and files shoving and such is very different.

its funny to see people boast increased speeds. ive said it before and ill say it again. there is no tweak here that can give you faster results than a freshly laoded windows. ESPECIALLY on a lan and the more you mess around and change crap, the worse off your gunna be.

but steele your knowledge is more than mine, and if people hang on your every word then let them, but be realistic, you and coffee both have time and time again swore by these tweaks and yet the results are so minor if any, that the tweaks prove themselves to be worthless if not hazardous for almost all who try them.
like i said there are those few who get better results, but those are mostly DSL clients, and why dsl is screwed out of the box,,, who knows.. it just is many times

mnosteele52 · Post by **mnosteele52** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 6:10 pm

V_LESTAT wrote:dude ive NEVER EVER in the 4 years i been coming here talked ot 1 single person who had any of them tweaks work and in fact most all say it makes it WORSE.

With that statement you have truly shown your ignorance.

Just browse through the forums on any given day and you will find numerous people saying thank you for increasing their speed.

YOU are the type of person that has lead me to not post here as I used to, I have no time for sheer ignorance.

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 8:35 pm

mnosteele52 wrote:Sorry but I have to say it........ you guys don't have a clue what you are talking about.

If tweaking doesn't help then why do clients pay me to optimize their systems ard are amazed at the difference I can make...... by TWEAKING!!!!!

rofl

well put

If tweaking doesn't work then why does microsoft and cisco a couple of other companies show the options to change optimize networks/software???