anyone like Nitrous Oxide?

Faust · Post by **Faust** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 2:28 am

old friend of mine i see on occasion has a 40lbs (or is it 45lbs) tank he gets filled on occasion. he has a 4 port industrial regulator too, but prefers the giant "punching bag" balloons instead.

usually, i am good for about 2 balloons (maybe 20 or 30 minutes), but i start to worry about killing brain cells after that.

tastes kind of sweet, too. seems pretty harmless if done in moderation.

64bit · Post by **64bit** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 2:57 am

Place I use to camp at around the holidays (Memorial,July 4th,Labor Day..) a dude was there that use to go around in his car with a tank and sell those big balloons for 5 bucks i think. Its fun but it gives me a headache after while. I havent been camping in a few years though.

ScottE · Post by **ScottE** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 3:00 am

Bad news that ****. Makes you hear like crazy sounds, and your heart beating. Nuts.

Faust · Post by **Faust** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 3:01 am

yeah, the novelty does wear off. one of those occasional opportunist kind of things for me, i guess. i don;t think i would go so far as to seek it out, but if it happens to be there..... maybe a lapse in common sense is OK every so often.

my dentist had always managed to talk me out of it for dental work. never tried it under those circumstances.

Set · Post by **Set** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 3:40 am

Been to a few Oxide Party's
I'm always down for a buzz so..........

Funny to see theys grown men/women running around huging there Oxi B's to keep them safe from harm

nepenthe · Post by **nepenthe** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 3:41 am

It helps me get my work done.

Set · Post by **Set** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 3:44 am

Originally posted by ScottE
Bad news that ****. Makes you hear like crazy sounds, and your heart beating. Nuts.

Buddie of mine Freaked out Bad on it one night I ended up having to hold him down wasnt easy hes like 6'2 and 250+Lbs

Seems some cant handle Its My self iv never freaked out or hear any thing on it But the Wong wong wong

kmax · Post by **kmax** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 1:20 pm

just put a plastic bag over your head. you will get the same effect and it wont cost you any money at all. all nos does is restict the amount of oxygen going to the brain so you might as well asphyxiate yourself to get high.

TonyT · Post by **TonyT** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 2:48 pm

It helps me get my work done.

I certainly hope you do not mean 'personally' helps me get my work done!
the SmilyDentist.com

Faust · Post by **Faust** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 3:05 pm

Originally posted by kmax
just put a plastic bag over your head. you will get the same effect and it wont cost you any money at all. all nos does is restict the amount of oxygen going to the brain so you might as well asphyxiate yourself to get high.

interesting theory. too bad it;s wrong.

kmax · Post by **kmax** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 3:23 pm

Originally posted by Faust
interesting theory. too bad it;s wrong.

No, it's not.

edit:

Inhaling nitrous can lead to asphyxiation, even though it has a higher oxygen content than air. Your body cannot produce the heat necessary (about 525 degrees Fahrenheit) to break the bond between the nitrogen and the oxygen, leaving the oxygen content useless for respiration.

The_Lurker · Post by **The_Lurker** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 3:30 pm

NO2 works great on my boats blower motor!!

WOOT

Cypher · Post by **Cypher** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 3:44 pm

No2 can be fun on occasion. When I lived in Philly we used to have balloon parties all the time. I haven't done it in years though. I can't stand to feel out of it any more, go figure.

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 3:49 pm

I'm getting this visual of Faust, walking into the local Safeway, and buying a "case" of canned whip cream.

Faust · Post by **Faust** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 4:46 pm

Originally posted by kmax
No, it's not.

edit:

i'm not disputing the chemistry involved. i am disputing what you claimed to be "the same effect".

i have experienced both both mild asphyziation as well as a nitrous high. they are different from one another.

Faust · Post by **Faust** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 4:47 pm

Originally posted by downhill
I'm getting this visual of Faust, walking into the local Safeway, and buying a "case" of canned whip cream.

lol..... never did that, but when i was a teen i was guilty on a few occasions of "killing" mom's whipped cream in the fridge

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Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 5:08 pm

Originally posted by Faust
i have experienced both both mild asphyziation

OOH, you're one of those?

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 5:30 pm

Originally posted by Prey521
OOH, you're one of those?

Hmmm...choking himself while choking the chicken?

Faust · Post by **Faust** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 7:16 pm

Originally posted by Prey521
OOH, you're one of those?

Originally posted by YeOldeStonecat
Hmmm...choking himself while choking the chicken?

hey! it;s a talent, mm-kay!

no, actually i choked on a catfish bone when i was a kid. did get it dislodged, but couldn;t inhale for (my guess is) 60 seconds... maybe a minute and 15 secs. without question, the most scared i have ever been.

anyways, there is more to nitrous than the potential for oxygen deprivation. i have seen people do what was apparently too much and their lips and flesh under their fingernails started to turn purple..... but nitrous is an anesthetic, and affects the body/mind in more ways than just starving them for oxygen.

the last i looked into it, it;s not 100% clear as to how nitrous oxide renders it;s anesthetic properties on the brain. how it;s absorbed into the fatty tissues and the further chemical interaction is known...... but precisely how and why it does what it does is (or was) unclear. maybe David will shine some light on this (being as how he's not only a dentist, but has a degree in chemistry i believe).

nepenthe · Post by **nepenthe** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 12:07 am

Originally posted by kmax
just put a plastic bag over your head. you will get the same effect and it wont cost you any money at all. all nos does is restict the amount of oxygen going to the brain so you might as well asphyxiate yourself to get high.

Incorrect. The pathway by which euphoria occurs in Nitrous oxide intoxication is not well understood, although the sensation is similar to that of nitrogen narcosis ("rapture of the deep"). When used in a controlled situation, such as a dental office, it is mixed with pure oxygen. Typically you would be breathing a far higher percentage of O2 than that of room air (25% N2O/75% O2 is the norm).

wee96 · Post by **wee96** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:06 pm

nepenthe wrote:Incorrect. The pathway by which euphoria occurs in Nitrous oxide intoxication is not well understood, although the sensation is similar to that of nitrogen narcosis ("rapture of the deep"). When used in a controlled situation, such as a dental office, it is mixed with pure oxygen. Typically you would be breathing a far higher percentage of O2 than that of room air (25% N2O/75% O2 is the norm).

Are dentists still scared to use it?

ScottE · Post by **ScottE** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:13 pm

I haven't done "Whip-its" since college. It was cool, but... so were a lot of things back then.

wee96 · Post by **wee96** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:16 pm

ScottE wrote:I haven't done "Whip-its" since college. It was cool, but... so were a lot of things back then.

We used to get them so much at this sex shop the guy would get cases knowing we'd buy them. Had the canisters you could put about 3 cartridges in, usually 3 at once would make you pass out hahaha. Ahh the days....

PinkKitty · Post by **PinkKitty** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:45 pm

As a kid I used to sell balloons from the tank at parties a lot. And you'd be surprised how much money I made, heheheh. I am lucky that no one I sold to was hurt, they may be stupid now, but not too badly hurt.

Spammy · Post by **Spammy** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:50 pm

PinkKitty wrote:As a kid I used to sell balloons from the tank at parties a lot. And you'd be surprised how much money I made, heheheh. I am lucky that no one I sold to was hurt, they may be stupid now, but not too badly hurt.

Im glad she Loves Jesus.

wee96 · Post by **wee96** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 6:02 pm

Spammy wrote:

Im glad she Loves Jesus.

Is that right. *knudge*

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 6:18 pm

I believe that the "air" we breathe is ~78% nitrogen, ~21% oxygen, with the remaining 1% moisture, argon, etc... (According to NASA anyway...

) (Of course nitrous oxide is composed differently...)

poptom · Post by **poptom** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 6:24 pm

When I was a kid, my dentist used it on me. It didn't seem to be very effective but he assured me that the pain would be a lot worse without it.

Laughing gas, but I didn't think it was funny.

David, do you guys still use the stuff?

--Tom

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:20 pm

Enjoyed it a few times when I was a kid.

Buying balloons at Dead shows or a box or 2 of canisters. Hippy crack

Haven't tried one in years though.

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:22 pm

Anyone top either trying it driving (dumb but wow) or underwater?

I'm lucky I didn't kill myself or someone else.

nepenthe · Post by **nepenthe** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:55 pm

poptom wrote:When I was a kid, my dentist used it on me. It didn't seem to be very effective but he assured me that the pain would be a lot worse without it.

Laughing gas, but I didn't think it was funny.

David, do you guys still use the stuff?

--Tom

Tom and Dave,

Nitrous oxide is not only one of the earliest anesthetics, it is one of the safest. As long as the patient is receiving at least 20% oxygen (25% O2 is our safety) they can buzz for hours. The level of consciousness can be controlled by titrating the N2O/O2 ratio

I have been trained in what is popularly referred to as "sedation dentistry". This includes an oral or nasally administered tricyclic (typically Halcyon®) concomitantly with nitrous oxide. Some practitioners might admix an opiate, however they stand a higher chance of morbidity.

david

david

RoundEye · Post by **RoundEye** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:39 pm

Watch where you get the Nitrous from. Some places that sell it for racing put small traces of Sulfur (I think) to keep people from inhaling it. Also some industrial Nitrous contains an oil base and Chlorine gas.

Not a good thing to be inhaling.

nepenthe · Post by **nepenthe** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:14 pm

RoundEye wrote:Watch where you get the Nitrous from. Some places that sell it for racing put small traces of Sulfur (I think) to keep people from inhaling it. Also some industrial Nitrous contains an oil base and Chlorine gas.

Not a good thing to be inhaling.

An excellent point to make. Like non-potable ethanol, non-medical grade Nitrous oxide is tainted to prevent abuse and avoid surcharges.

MadDoctor · Post by **MadDoctor** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:38 pm

Darn cute kids David!

nepenthe · Post by **nepenthe** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:10 am

MadDoctor wrote:Darn cute kids David!

Don't you get any wooly ideas. Ok... I can permit one.

david

Rivas · Post by **Rivas** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 1:51 am

downhill wrote:I'm getting this visual of Faust, walking into the local Safeway, and buying a "case" of canned whip cream.