I screwed up!

Jon · Post by **Jon** » Mon Jul 28, 2003 10:12 pm

I have a windows 98se machine hear I am trying to work on. The data on this machine has not been backed up but is very important to this person.

I thought I would hook the windows 98 drive to my windows xp system as a slave boot into windows xp, burn their data on cd and then proceed to work on the windows 98 machine.

Now I can't even boot my windows xp machine after trying to boot it with the windows 98 drive attached as a slave.

I now get disk boot failure, insert system disk and press enter when I try and boot my windows xp system.

any suggestions please?

Sid · Post by **Sid** » Mon Jul 28, 2003 11:41 pm

Check the jumpers on the drives.

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Mon Jul 28, 2003 11:46 pm

Might have to edit the BOOT.INI file

Sid · Post by **Sid** » Mon Jul 28, 2003 11:49 pm

Originally posted by Burke
Might have to edit the BOOT.INI file

He's slaving the drive.

Jon · Post by **Jon** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 6:07 am

I can not get this drive to work again.

It is one of the western digital 8mb cache 80gig drives.

It is now the only drive in my xp system.

I have no jumpers on the drive it is plugged into the last plug on the IDE cable.

I reinstalled windowx XP and upon reboot. I get the same message. "disk boot failure, insert system disk and press enter"

I formated the drive during the XP install (NTFS).

thanks

mnosteele52 · Post by **mnosteele52** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 7:39 am

Sid is right, you need to make sure the jumpers are right, if not it won't boot. You should be able to hook it up as you are suggesting (XP drive master and 98 drive slave) then take anything off the 98 drive you need, I've done it many times.

Sid · Post by **Sid** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 11:58 am

I assume all the disks are out of the drives? Try booting into recovery console and give it the ole fixmbr command.

If that's the 80gb se drive and its the only one in the system and there is nothing else attatched to the cable then the drive should not have any jumpers. If there is another drive on the cable then you need to set the jumpers.

Kinda sounds like the mbr got hosed down.

The Dude · Post by **The Dude** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 10:49 am

May sound like a dumb question, wouldn't be the first time I asked one. You didn't per chance change the boot order in the bios? I think you get the same error if you have it set to floppy only and you don't insert a floppy. It does sound like your MBR is hosed though.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 3:14 pm

Quickest and easiest thing to do, when popping a HD into another computer just to copy data off...is to put it on IDE 2 as the only drive. Remove whatever cd-rom(s) there are, and pop the "source" drive onto the cable. That way you don't have to bother with jumpers, master, slave, and change your own primary drive jumpers.

KISS

Sid · Post by **Sid** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 3:48 pm

Originally posted by YeOldeStonecat
Quickest and easiest thing to do, when popping a HD into another computer just to copy data off...is to put it on IDE 2 as the only drive. Remove whatever cd-rom(s) there are, and pop the "source" drive onto the cable. That way you don't have to bother with jumpers, master, slave, and change your own primary drive jumpers.

KISS

Besides that it probably won't boot up any ways because of the difference in hardware.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 4:02 pm

Originally posted by Sid

Besides that it probably won't boot up any ways because of the difference in hardware.

Right, I wasn't thinking he was trying to boot up from the 98 HD, just "browse" it through My Computer and copy over the stuff he needed. I do that all the time with most client upgrades, make a folder on the new computers HD called C:\Download\OldHD...and copy the entire old hard drive into that folder. Cuz you know if you ask the person, they'll think they know all the data they need...so you copy that over. Two weeks later they call up "Oh, I forgot, I need one more thing". So I went to the "copy the entire HD" method...and it's easy to grab whatever you need that way, because nothing is left behind.

Most computer upgrades are going from a small HD to some monster new HD...so copying the entire old HD doesn't really waste space on todays gargantuan drives.

Jon · Post by **Jon** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 4:13 pm

I can't belive I did not think of putting it on IDE 2!

anyway.....

I think the drive is toast. I have it hooked up with no jumpers and it is the only device on the cable. I still get the same error.

I put a new Maxtor 80gig 8mb cache drive in it and everything works great.

I don't think I will ever buy another WD drive. This is the second WD 80 gig 8 mb cache drive to go this week.

My drive and a friends computer I was working on this weekend.

incrediblecain · Post by **incrediblecain** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 12:19 am

What do you mean no jumpers, you need a jumper to tell the comp what it is. Here check this out http://support.wdc.com/techinfo/general/jumpers.asp

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 12:31 am

Originally posted by incrediblecain
What do you mean no jumpers, you need a jumper to tell the comp what it is. Here check this out http://support.wdc.com/techinfo/general/jumpers.asp

If it's the only device on the cable, as stated, then 'no jumpers' is right.

Check your link.

incrediblecain · Post by **incrediblecain** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 1:42 am

I just found the page in case he needed it, didn't actually read it, I've just never had a drive w/o one. I need to STFU.

in2deep · Post by **in2deep** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 8:51 am

Do you have an option in your BIOS that says something like "Load optimum settings" or similar. If so, try that. Twice I've thought my HDD was dead, first time I took the system back to the place I got the system, (was under warranty), and they said all was fine, the disk was BIOS disabled. Second time, I tried this button myself, and it all started working again, although I did have to tweak my fsb spedd as the "optimum" settings resulted in underclocking my 2.533GHz at 1.9GHz !

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 9:23 am

Originally posted by Jon
I can't belive I did not think of putting it on IDE 2!

anyway.....

I think the drive is toast. I have it hooked up with no jumpers and it is the only device on the cable. I still get the same error.

I put a new Maxtor 80gig 8mb cache drive in it and everything works great.

I don't think I will ever buy another WD drive. This is the second WD 80 gig 8 mb cache drive to go this week.

My drive and a friends computer I was working on this weekend.

WD's earned a reputation as one of the most reliable in the industry, along with Seagate. Bummer yours croaked, those 8 meg SE drives are soooo fast. Gotta be carefull when handling hard drives, heck, anything on the computer.

Not knowing what motherboard you have, are the IDE controllers enabled, set to auto detect, did you run through the autodetect routine? Saying yes to save changes?

The Dude · Post by **The Dude** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 9:58 am

Double check to be sure the IDE cable isn't on backwards at one end. I imagine you've probably done this already, but I'll mention it just to cover all the bases. You could also double check the power connector. Just pull it off and make sure it goes on tight and makes a good connection. While it's off check the pins on the hard drive. If ones loose and moves around when you touch it you have found your problem. I had one go on me and the pc boots like there is no drive connected. I have actually had that happen too me twice. They were both old drives that had been moved around from PC to PC a lot.

in2deep · Post by **in2deep** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 10:16 am

YOSC:

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Not knowing what motherboard you have, are the IDE controllers enabled, set to auto detect, did you run through the autodetect routine? Saying yes to save changes?
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I had tried this when my system seemed dead, but it did not rectify the problem. I had to load the "optimum settings", however, this is a good point and should be tried before my suggestion Jon.